PS3 vs 360 In 2009
Two consoles, one year: surely this is the year this generation is decided.Published 01/01/2009 at 14:53 by nofi
25 years ago, before the number of dimensions available to developers went up to three, gamers like me spent much of our time arguing over which computer was the best: the mighty ZX Spectrum or the blocky, ugly Commodore 64. Thankfully, we were about 6 or 7 years old, so the very notion of fighting in the playgrounds over something we had next to no control over didn’t seem so strange. Sure, Sir Clive Sinclair didn’t care about little old me individually, but word of mouth soon spreads and if I could convince just one other kid to buy a Speccy rather than a C64, then that’d be another notch in the balance books at Sinclair HQ.
Fast forward a quarter of a century, and it seems little has changed. With the advent of the internet and the newfound ability to fight the fanboy wars from behind the relative anonymity of a keyboard, the battle lines are a little more blurred. Publishers, developers and the console manufacturers can now see at a glance who’s talking about what and see precisely what the thoughts of the assembled masses really are just by registering a forum identity; and yes, we know that certain publishers like to ‘get involved’ with these forum chats pretending to just be a ‘fan’ of the game, but that’s for another post and another day.
In this feature we’re going to leave all the fanboyism at the door. Despite the fact that this is a PS3 website I do take some pride in knowing that we don’t pander to Sony and certainly don’t pretend Microsoft don’t exist: I personally keep both consoles (and a Wii) at the side of the television and of late it’s the 360 that has seen the most playtime, my recent acquisition of PlayTV notwithstanding. Why? Perhaps it’s just a case of catching up with all the Xbox games I’ve missed whilst hammering the hell out of the PS3 for the last 12 months, catching up with Gears or getting involved with the whole Community Games angle, or perhaps it’s just nice to have the option to play all the games released.
But such whimsical fence-sitting doesn’t help with this article, which is intended to do just one thing: decide the victor of 2009. Yes, there’s going to be an awful lot of educated guesswork here, because naturally we don’t know everything that the major players have planned for us this year, but we know one thing for sure: not a great deal will change from 2008. Sony will still promise the earth, extend the firmware to new realms and delay key titles beyond belief, and Microsoft will do pretty much the same – it’s the way things are in the world of consoles just now: get the kids in the playgrounds talking, get the parents buying and the rest will take care of itself.
And what gets people spending more than price? In this cash-strapped economy (thanks, America) we’re currently sinking in, the initial price ticket is the one that shouts the loudest. Sure, you can do little spreadsheets to prove that ultimately, pound for pound, the PS3 provides the better value but on the shelves, when Mum is glancing over which console to buy, it’s the one that costs £129 that’ll shift more than the one that sells £300. Personally, I bought a launch 60GB PS3 for £425. £425 I didn’t really have, and had to save up for a few months, sell pretty much everything I owned and trade-in almost every game I’d ever bought last generation, and I ran a PS2 site so had quite a few.
If the PS3 still cost £425 this article (and this website) probably wouldn’t exist. The arrogance that Sony showed when pricing the PlayStation 3 over here still beggars belief, and the whole notion that people will pay that “even if it had no games” still makes me cringe. Whether or not the ridiculous price had any effect on sales for the first two years we’re not concerned with – the PS3 now costs a penny under £300, so that’s what we’re working with. On the flip side, you can get an Xbox Arcade for £129, less than half the price and although it doesn’t come with a hard drive, it is an Xbox 360 and with that £129 purchase you can play 99% of all the 360’s games.
So, that’s the issue here. Does Sony need to offer a cut-down PS3, sans wi-fi and Blu-ray player, to compete? Sony, and in particular SCEE, have always stuck with the rule that bundles are the way forward, and continue to offer almost the same hardware and just throw in more and more accessories and games to extend the value of the purchase. To an extend this works, if you’re clued-up on what the PS3 offers then £300 with wi-fi (which costs £50 on the 360) and a HD-movie player (which we’ll come back to) is a fantastic deal, but recent anecdotal experience over Christmas suggests otherwise: people don’t understand, at all. And why would they – what have SCEE done to promote the features of the PS3 on television? Who’s seen an advert that says the PS3 plays the future of HD movies, has free internet gaming and works with whatever network you already have, out of the box? Nobody, so they expect the GAME sales staff to relay this information to the customer instead? Really?
Let’s face it, some gamers won’t even know that the bundled AV cables don’t offer the best picture; some gamers won’t have access to a HDTV and some won’t even have access to the web. These are the gamers for which price is the main factor, assuming they can play GTA IV and FIFA, and thus the low entry price of the Xbox 360 can only result in lots of sales for Microsoft, and the opposite for Sony. Round one, then, goes to the Xbox.
Much has been made recently of the New Xbox Experience. Compared to the old ‘blade’ interface it’s a huge step forward, one away from pushing the 360 as a games console and moving towards a future-proof, expandable media hub. Sure, it’s not immediately obvious how to find your way around and 75% of the menu options end up trying to get you to spend money, but the consistent look and feel as you drill down the menus works a treat, and the box-arts for everything are really neat. It’s just fast, slick and very un-Microsoft, but it isn’t going to sell consoles or decide the ‘winner’ this year, because at its core it’s just another way of navigating the menus, much like Sony’s equally (but rather more muted) XMB.
No, the reason the 360’s interface keeps gamers coming back is the way that everything on the console is superbly linked and cross-referenced. From anywhere, in any game, a simple tap of the Guide button brings up a cool sub-set of the NXE from where you can manage friends, messages and check things like Achievements, which we’ll come back to. Yes, the in-game XMB does a similar thing, but in comparison the decision to present the user with the entire XMB menu wasn’t the best idea – try showing the feature to a non-gamer, or someone unfamiliar with the structure of the XMB and even the option to quit the game requires a bit of searching around. Couple this with the somewhat clunky Trophy implementation and it’s clear that the Xbox 360’s interface is leaps and bounds ahead of the PS3s.
But, again, how does this translate into winning a console war? Well, when forced to choose between two otherwise identical versions of a new game, which do you go for: the one with Achievements guaranteed and the ability to easily invite friends at a consistent console-level or the one where you might get Trophies and you might be able to work out how to invite your buddies assuming the developers have a) coded the feature in and b) not made it almost impossible to figure it out. I’ll not mention any specific games, but you know who you are. And then we come to the one of the biggest issues I have: the title updates. If a PS3 game requires a patch, it’s usually at least 25 MB and you’re at the mercy of the PS3’s wifi as it slowly crawls across the internet to your console. The equivalent 360 update? Grabbed in seconds, literally. If you don’t think this is an issue, try unboxing a brand new PS3 on Christmas day and playing LittleBigPlanet – if it’s not the massive firmware update it’s at least one title update – we’ve heard stories of new PS3 owners having to wait an hour after first putting in the disk before playing.
These things, like everything else, spread by word of mouth. Sony needs to sort out its firmware and game update patching regulations, enforce mandatory Trophies and take a good hard look at what makes the 360’s interface so damned user friendly, and that’s without mentioning full game installs, a feature that really does silence the critics. Round two? Yep, you guessed it, 2:0.
HD-DVD is dead, thankfully. With a dual-format high definition movie war the only losers were the consumers themselves, having to either edge their bets or stay clear until somebody kicked the bucket. Clearly, Sony’s decision to include the Blu-ray player as standard will have repercussions throughout the rest of the year: the Blu-ray sections in major stores are only getting bigger, the prices are slowly starting to come down and in terms of functionality and performance the PS3 offers outstanding playback of the new format. This, out of all the things in this particular feature, stands out as being a major contributing factor to the recent sales of the PS3, yet Sony are still reluctant to advertise the fact to the masses.
With HDTV penetration on the rise (and we’ll bet there’s been a massive spike after Christmas) it’s the non-gamers that Sony should now be looking towards: push the fact that the PS3 plays this new movie format and no other console does and those sat on the fence might bite. At £300 for a Blu-ray player alone the new PlayStation is a steal, yet as a games machine alone it looks overpriced. Of course, those of us already sporting the shiny black console under our TV know all this, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Joe Average has no idea, and unless he’s blind will not only see the benefits of buying a PS3, but also will then go on to purchase the HD movies in the future.
And if you’re in the US you can also watch movies on your PS3, although it’s clearly not as developed as the 360’s Netflix option. Why we don’t have a similar function here in Europe is presumably down to licensing issues and the notion that Sony Europe need an additional six months of time to get anything done, but we will see the option soon. Microsoft is adamant that Digital Downloads are the way to go, but call me old fashioned: I’d rather have the boxed version on my shelf as part of my movie collection, thank you very much. There’s no question here, if you’re looking for a reason for the PS3 to win in 2009, the ability to play Blu-ray movies must come into play. Round three: PS3.
And, finally, we arrive at the thing that gamers want the most: games, and it’s probably one of the toughest areas to cover because whilst the above is reasonably objective discussion, games by their very nature are subjective and usually encompass much of the fanboy debate as console exclusives are used as the main weapon in the my-console-is-better-than-yours war: Is Left4Dead better than Uncharted 2? Is Forza 2 a better racer than Gran Turismo 5 Prologue? And then we have the utterly ridiculous cross-console comparison features, normally started by some bored forum member and pushed to the masses by the otherwise readable Eurogamer. Does it matter if the PS3 version of GTA has less pixels than the Xbox 360 version? Does Devil May Cry’s slightly-quicker-on-PS3 load times really push that version of the game?
Probably not. However, the recent trend of buying exclusive content almost certainly does. Microsoft’s initial gamble with Grand Theft Auto IV’s downloadable content (DLC) for a reputed $50M meant that if you wanted the definitive version of Rockstar’s latest you bought the 360 version over the PS3 version, and if you didn’t have a console and were waiting for GTA, then you’d buy a 360 to play it on. Naturally, getting hard evidence to support these notions isn’t easy, but in the content of such a feature it’s not unreasonable to assume that such decisions were made by gamers new to this generation of consoles. Sadly, we’re still to see the release of the GTA DLC, although we’re assured it’s on its way, but such pauses have long term consequences as the recent exclusive DLC for Tomb Raider Underworld don’t seem to have had much effect on sales of the game, with the initial batch of PS3 versions outing the rival 360 version.
Games do sell consoles, though, and in the war of 2009 it’ll be the exclusive games that finally decide the victor, at least in our idealistic but probably ridiculously naive world. Who had the best games in 2008 isn’t relevant here, both consoles had some absolute stormers, but looking ahead to the rest of this year is entirely relevant and we’re still ignorant about anything that Sony and Microsoft are holding back from the public eye until E3 or some other game show in the coming months. What we do know, though, is that Sony will absolutely own the first quarter of 2009. Why? Well, think Killzone 2 mainly, the first person shooter that has been at the forefront of PlayStation gamers since that movie back at E3 2005. Yes, it’s been quite a while, but the recent beta and playtests of those fortunate to have spent time with the game have been almost entirely positive, and in terms of system-sellers Killzone 2 is as big as they come.
And then the rest of the AAA titles start to roll in. In 2009, the PS3 will exclusively play host to Uncharted 2, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, inFamous, God of War 3 and Heavy Rain, and hopefully something from Polyphony Digital to test our force-feedback steering wheels. Each and every one of the above has been hyped beyond normal rational levels, with the mere mention of any of them enough to hopefully get gamers not yet on the PS3 wagon well and truly ready to splash the cash. Of course, Microsoft isn’t going to roll over and just let the PS3 walk away with all the bragging rights in terms of software: the 360 will exclusively feature Alan Wake, a follow up to Mass Effect and a new Halo title, but in my humble opinion none of these hold the same weight and we can’t see them actually selling machines.
So we’re calling this 2:2. The Xbox’s interface and pricing may make the 360 an initially attractive purchase, and one that sits happily underneath the television in TSA Towers, but long term, and where it really matters, the games, the PS3 starts to shine through and although this has been said for the last two years, 2009 really is the year of the PS3. It has to be: gaming has always been where the PlayStation brand has excelled, and it’s clear that the developers are really starting to get to grips with the architecture of the machine and that the publishers are getting behind it more than ever before. We look forward to seeing what happens in 2009, then, and as always welcome your comments on this topic.
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Please note that all comments are the opinion of the individual author and not TheSixthAxis.
Mick939 | 01/01/2009 15:13
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The interface better than the xmb? Are you on drugs sir?
proog | 01/01/2009 15:46
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He just might be, but he’s got a point. The Xbox guide thing is very compact and provides buttons for the most common things right off the bat, while the entire XMB can be a little too big while in game. Sure, the XMB does pretty much the same thing (and does it well, I might add), but it’s options are more scattered than in its Xbox counterpart, which might make it more confusing and less efficient.
coolgr33k | 19/04/2009 18:26
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the 360 allows you to join and chat to people, even if they are in another totally different game.
I used to have one, but the ps3 is still very good.
Only the 360 has a better online but you have to pay £40 for something similar to PSN.
whoelse | 01/01/2009 16:26
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I prefer the NXE interface to the XMB.
Microsoft have stated that they will not lower the price of the 360 for a long long time however Sony are almost certainly going to drop the price in 2009 which will make the price way more balanced. Hopefully Sony will cut the price sooner than later.
djhsecondnature | 01/01/2009 16:28
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Isn’t the NXE riddled with ads?
proog | 02/01/2009 00:23
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No, but it has a category with highlights, much like you would see in the right half of the PS Store front.
andytorr | 02/01/2009 17:07
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I thought this too. I often sit in my brothers room whilst he’s on his box and there always seems to be a handful of adverts everywhere. You’re not alone dj. THEY DO EXIST
3shirts | 01/01/2009 17:36
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I much prefer the XMB outside of games but I agree that when in-game we should be presented with a simpler version that only shows the things you can actually do without leaving the game. What is the point of showing me the whole XMB when about 80% of it results in “you must quit the game to do this”?
RealBigGuns | 02/01/2009 05:25
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360 has an excellent, superior interface. If nothing else, the ability to do cross-game invites and voice chat is fantastic. Really makes it easier to organize and hop into games with your friends.
I say this as somebody who is a proud ps3 owner…
coolgr33k | 19/04/2009 18:20
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I used to have a 360 till it broke, it had good interface but ps3 may receive updates in the future whcih enables it to be able to join and chat friends, even if there not in the same game.
commando101st | 01/01/2009 15:21
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ZOMG PS3 pwns XBOX is for n00bs.
On a more serious note, 2009 had better be the year for PS3 or it’s going down the drain. There simply won’t be enough support for it to make it a viable option.
djhsecondnature | 01/01/2009 15:29
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Very interesting
seedaripper1973 | 02/01/2009 17:42
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aye
cc_star | 01/01/2009 15:35
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The shrinking economy may have the biggest say on matters, not only effecting console sales in 2009, but also games undergoing development now for release in 2010 and beyond as executives may be unwilling to sign off big cheques for future blockbusting development.
And believe me when I say this, the general public are oblivious to matters like AV Vs HDMI cables, they don’t even factor in things like 3-4 years of gold subscription which evens up the price between the consoles.
Sony or more specifically SCEE need to realise that the Sony brand name has been damaged beyond belief and is no longer enough on it’s own to shift consoles (by damaged I mean with regards to events over the past couple of years regarding their arrogance at the launch of the PS3, the exploding laptop batteries, and the whole fiasco of the court case with Immersion.)
The world doesn’t really care about HD movies, look at the explosion of the use of lo-def movies captured on mobiles etc… and uploaded to youtube and chart that graph against Blu-ray sales.
We are now in a world where price is the largest part of a buying decision, and no amount of apparent added value will make to much difference.
GamerRiley | 01/01/2009 17:34
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I agree with the whole economy thing, people (in general) can’t afford the price of a PS3 when they are just thinking of buying it as a games machine. The 360 or even wii for that matter are much better value.
Saying that though, my father in-law who is mad on getting the latest T.V. and hi-def kit went out to get a Blu-ray player and came back with a PS3. For him the games are a bonus if he ever feels like buying one, Primerily that black box is for playing Hi-Def movies.
3shirts | 01/01/2009 17:44
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You are totally right cc. People are much more likely to be able to justify £130 now, maybe £50 for a hard drive in 6 months time, a wifi adapter a few months later, £30 for 12 months online play and so on. They wouldn’t be able to justify £300 now even if that gets them unlimited online play and all the other bells and whistles.
I am hopeful that in a years time the economy will be recovering so if I had a choice of payments spread over time like that, I would probably go for it.
GamerRiley | 01/01/2009 17:51
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If the PS3 was released today at £425, how many people would be buying?
I’m thinking twice about spending £15 on a Blu-ray movie!
proog | 01/01/2009 15:42
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Good comparison. Reminds me quite a lot of secondnature’s work
I think I have to agree with almost everything here, but is it really that hard to find the “Quit game” option in the XMB? I mean, considering it’s the default selection and all.
cc_star | 01/01/2009 16:04
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A Microsoft rep visits GAME stores monthly, leaves behind some sales patter/leaflets for the staffroom, puts up some display material to advertise key games to customers (Fable, Gears2 & Lips most recently) and chats to staff about whats happening in the world of the 360 in the coming month.
Whereas over at SCEE towers, they…. errmm well actually I’m not sure
So when you think about it;
Microsoft advertise on TV directly appealing to customers
They’ve wrote a huge cheque in the form of a massive price drop, appealing to customers.
They put a live & running 360 in almost all gaming outlets attached to a small but good looking LCD HDTV, appealing to customers.
They send reps round to visit stores and chat to staff, and provide sales literature, and point of sale display material, appealing to retail staff & customers
Promo freebies are thin on the ground at grass roots staff level, but what little of it I have had the benefit of, has been 100% 360 related and came in the form of Gears 2 t-shirt, cap notebook and some collectors item, and separately some Fable2 stuff.
Review copies of multi-platform games are almost always 100% shipped to review sites in the form of a 360 disk (and to some site possibly countless freebies)
Sony (SCEE) on the other hand;
Some rather cryptic adverts about LBP which made everybody go “I don’t get it” (I liked them, but they were preaching to the converted)
And thats your lot!
Can you understand why one console outsells the other 3:1
It isn’t price alone (although it helps) it’s an all out attack on many, many fronts
SCEE, sit up and learn!
(and before someone criticises for being negative, I say wake up and smell the coffee)
djhsecondnature | 01/01/2009 16:21
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I’m not going to disagree, except the outselling 3:1 sales. Where did you get that number from?
cc_star | 01/01/2009 16:32
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You think it’s more?
perhaps it is, but since the 360 went down to rrp 129.99 (available from 99.99) it has varied between 2:1 and 4:1 so I thought 3:1 sat nicely in the middle
Matt_NI | 01/01/2009 16:31
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That is a damn good read my friend.
Really well constructed
But
We all know the commodore pwnd all
cc_star | 01/01/2009 16:33
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sorry, but my speccy was miles better
online4ntagonist | 01/01/2009 16:49
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C64 4EVER!
well not really forever cos mine broke eventually, but you know..
cc_star | 01/01/2009 17:58
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Thank you Mr 1 star. Am I to presume you were a c64 nut?
djhsecondnature | 01/01/2009 16:38
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Also nofi, aren’t Trophies mandatory as of today?
3shirts | 01/01/2009 17:48
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Good point, I think read that somewhere
theshockwave | 01/01/2009 17:55
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Yeh, they are. Now all games released must come with trophies.
colossalblue | 02/01/2009 19:59
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They are mandatory in all submissions from January 1st but any games that were submitted in December for a Jan, Feb or March release might not have trophies.
coolgr33k | 19/04/2009 18:17
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Before 2009, only a few games had trophies, some got patches and some just came with them. Since the start of 2009, all games have trophies.
cc_star | 01/01/2009 17:06
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I wonder why anything PSN related is slow. The point about the FW updates etc… never really crossed my mind, because I usually have my laptop fired up so am distracted whilst all that PSN related stuff goes on.
But if I d/l a 20meg file from the internet it zips along in seconds whereas a similar d/l involving the PS3 (FW update, PSN download etc…) takes much longer, and it’s interesting to hear that the 360 zips along at the same speed as the end user usually finds their Internet does.
djhsecondnature | 01/01/2009 17:09
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My PSN is only fractionally slower than my laptop speeds.
3shirts | 01/01/2009 17:49
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I generally find I download stuff from PSN faster than on my PC, I assumed this was just due to good Sony servers
xvLIAMvx | 01/01/2009 17:19
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I’m with the whole 360 and ps3 thing. left 4 dead and motorstorm 2 are both fighting for my attention. I like the 360 and it’s live, installing games now and 8 way party chat ftw. But I love the quality of the ps3 and think psn is wonderful especially with no monthly fee. I wish left 4 dead was on ps3 and I wish ps3 had cross game chat and worked in the same unified manner live does. But you really do have to own both to appreciate all the games of 2008, and will be the same for 2009. Though ps3 exclusives are amazing. Uncharted, motorstorm and mgs4 are not even close to matched on the 360. So, buy both! guaranteed those who are extreme fanboys are those who wish they could have both.
Paragonknight | 01/01/2009 17:42
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Nice comparison you made there and well written. Although on Game (online) on their comparison they had this to say for future games on Xbox 360 in 2009, “Alongside big-hitting sequels like Splinter Cell Conviction and Halo Wars (a real-time strategy title set in the Halo universe), 360 owners will get plenty of original new content.
Long-awaited psychological horror adventure Alan Wake, should finally creep into shops, and we’re expecting several promising RPGs including exotic conspiracy drama, White Gold: War in Paradise, Medieval mystery, Venetica and the massively multiplayer superheroes epic, Champions Online”
Champions Online is to counter DC Universe online?
cc_star | 01/01/2009 19:29
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For every exclusive there is an equal exclusive on the opposing system.
djhsecondnature | 01/01/2009 19:58
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What counters LBP?
BioEye | 01/01/2009 17:44
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I felt happy reading that console comparison. I usually come away feeling very uptight and a need to sound like a fanboy.
But I don’t think I will here. I’m happy. For a few minutes…
GamerRiley | 01/01/2009 17:47
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Very good read nofi. A well balanced argument for both consoles, if only I had the money to buy a 360. Just looking back at the download times you mentioned, I recently purchased Burnout in the sales, wanted to get on it straight away when I got home so kicked the kids off the t.v. only to have to wait 2 hours while new updates were downloaded. Not that I wouldn’t want to be without the bikes they’re great fun.
Hopefully though with a little price drop, more films on Blu-ray with a cheaper price tag, and a year of great games starting with Killzone 2, and this could be the year of the PS3. Just the same as 1982 was the year of the C64.
theshockwave | 01/01/2009 17:59
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It IS the year of the PS3.
The 360 came out much earlier than the PS3, so it has surely reached (or is close to) its full potential. The Playstation, needs more time before it does that.
Killzone 2 is gonna kick arse, and there are more great exclusives coming to the PS3 than the 360 this year.
Also, if its a price drop you’re after, there’ll almost certainly be one this year. And more advertising will take place. Guaranteed.
Good read though!
BioEye | 01/01/2009 18:09
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Advertising? Pah.
I might just have to do it for them.
theshockwave | 01/01/2009 18:29
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Well, any help they can get…
ADPolicenaut | 01/01/2009 18:03
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Commodore will rise again.
cc_star | 01/01/2009 18:12
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Wrong!
Spotter5 | 01/01/2009 18:34
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cc_star.. that file is linked from the York College site..
Do you go there? because i do