Morne

Graphics cards release yearly. My dad’s got a quad core PC with all the trimming, except for a Geforce 8600. It barely manages Crysis and, well, that’s only a generation of graphics cards from the latest (last time I checked, anyway).

My PS3 died a few months after I got it and I got it replaced for free. And as far as why you’d have to replace parts on your PC, I meant to play the very latest games in a couple of years, not because they broke, I’ve never had parts break in a PC before, just the damn OS fucking things up.

And I’ve never noticed any popup in GTA IV before :-/

Whereas, the part that may/may not fail on my PC, would be replaceable by me, and (typically) for less than $150, and may even still be under warranty, PC parts manufacturers will allow RMA’s for years after the product was purchased…for free.

I understand what you’re saying Gamoc, but I don’t run into those problems with my PC’s. The only time I’ve ever had a catastrophic failure, was my fault, and well, we’ll leave it at that lol. But, I’ve had a PC running alongside my consoles well, for about as long as I’ve had consoles. I guess I’m lucky there.

Well, you know, graphics don’t make a super game, you’re right, but crappy graphics on a decent game, don’t necessarily help either. The popins/screen tearing prevalent for the console GTA was pretty bothersome. Completely eradicated when I brought it to my PC though.

Lastly, again, you’re missing my point here. The hardware industry progresses at a tremendous pace, you’re absolutely 100% correct on that Gamoc, absolutely no disagreement there. However, you’re wrong if you think that when a new piece of hardware is released, that developers are automatically adding it’s abilities to their app. Think on it this way, a game released today, has likely been in production for at least 2 years, give or take, right? Well, the past 2 years worth of hardware, wouldn’t be included w/in optimization for that app, as the developers weren’t privy to those specs with their SDK’s. You follow?

Basically, it boils down to, the hardware you buy, can be as cutting-edge, and brand spanking new as money can buy, but unless you’ve got a team of software engineers/developers living in your home constantly updating your software, you’ll be waiting at least 2 or 3 years before companies start to take advantage of that hardware.

Morne

And regardless of how advanced your PC is now, a couple of years will see that it isn’t. PC gaming advances way too quickly.

I used game on PC too (I was in a clan of MOHAAS, for example), but I do prefer consoles for it all now. I don’t even have a PC anymore, just my laptop, which I rarely ever play games on and, when I do, they’re either very small games or strategy games.

And yeah, yeah, graphics, graphics. I don’t personally think the ridiculous amount you paid for the PC justified everything looking a bit prettier.

god war can’t compare to daiblo or guildwars

Here is my point pc gaming has alot more exclusives

you will never see a game sins of the solar empire on consoles ever it’s too complex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY-NSNhgydY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI4hMaeAgDM

how about space sims

eve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jOJR5Xauf0

X3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BYxSivFZE

jump gate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_r995c4exo&feature=PlayList&p=A5CC1063FC8096BA&index=0

I could go on, I mean I am not limited to just space I got stuff likre the rome empire to real life games on the pc.

By the way, I realize that this is a debate regarding exclusives on the consoles, however, the point that people are attempting to make is, there’s only one console with exclusives, when you factor in the PC market, and that’s the PS3.

Morne

As for having to replace parts, again, you have to plan this stuff accordingly. The mobo, gpu, cpu, etc… all of those things are so high-end, that any upgrade would be miniscule at best. Currently, the biggest bang for my buck would be going to dual GTX260’s in SLI. Replacing my CPU, or RAM, would be a minor upgrade seeing as CPU/GPU/RAM have to be clocked with each other in mind (otherwise you have RAM outputting data much faster than the CPU/GPU can handle/read, and vice versa). I could keep going, but the point remains, the hardware I currently have, is vastly beyond any game that’s currently out there. And while new pieces of hardware may come out between now and then, the software engineering process is still behind in optimizing for the newer gen technology.

And yes, you do replace parts in your PS3, at least, I have. I swapped the original 60g with a 320g SATA2. Took 5 minutes, and the added storage space, not to mention improved load/save times, is definitely welcome.

Additionally, the consoles also won’t get GTAIV @ 1920×1200, with no popins or screen tearing. The Consoles also won’t get free content updates. The list really goes on and on. I can appreciate your liking for consoles, but the days of consoles actually having more power (and longevity for that matter) than PC’s, is long, long over.

K/M vs controller is most certainly a matter of opinion, however, when put into practice in real life, the K/M setup’s going to win, every single time, with regards to precision, response times etc…

Morne

And Controller Vs. Keyboard/Mouse is an opinion, and I prefer controllers.

Morne

http://www.station.sony.com/en/

Over the course of 6 months, I hand picked a mobo, gpu, cpu, RAM, HDD’s, box, CPU cooler, optical drives and cables… And paid for them, piece by piece by piece. I went high-end, for the most part, however, I cut corners/costs only in very certain areas that wouldn’t directly impact performance.

My end result, is a monster machine. Core 2 Quad, GTX260 Core 216, 4g if DDR3 XMS3 RAM @ 1500mhz, and a whole lot more. Yeah, if I would’ve bought them outright, it would’ve cost me a pretty penny. However, making the purchase drag over the course of 6 months, really fit my budget perfectly. And…to this day I have no need of anything other than a PS3 for SCE’s 1st party exclusives. The rest, I get on PC, via GfW, have my buddies from XBL through the GfW service, etc.. And seriously…playing GTAIV @ 1920×1200 is just amazing

Plus, nothing beats keyboard/mouse support for FPS’.

Morne

Morne

That leaves needing the PS3/Wii. I’m not a huge Wii fan, tbh, so I have my PS3 for games that will never see the light of day, on any other platform. Gran Turismo 5, GoWIII??? Yes please….Twisted Metal? You bet. Sony may have made errors in their business model this gen, but they’ve still got it right with never releasing their first party titles on PC. It means you HAVE to have a PS3, if you want these games. (Emulation aside, because emulation for PS games is atrocious). But, all multiplatform titles, I buy for PC.

Just my 2 cents.

Morne