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	<title>Comments on: Fallout DLC and Game Of The Year Dated</title>
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		<title>By: fanpages</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82759</link>
		<dc:creator>fanpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading back through the recent &quot;Fallout 3&quot; articles at The Sixth Axis, I am guessing that the reason for the information was released over a long duration was to avoid having to announce that the testing/quality assurance process of the re-released title (including the introduction of the downloadable content &amp; PS3 Trophy support) was not going as well as intended.

It&#039;s OK... there was no need for the explanation you provided, but thank you for your time.

BFN,

fp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading back through the recent &#8220;Fallout 3&#8243; articles at The Sixth Axis, I am guessing that the reason for the information was released over a long duration was to avoid having to announce that the testing/quality assurance process of the re-released title (including the introduction of the downloadable content &amp; PS3 Trophy support) was not going as well as intended.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s OK&#8230; there was no need for the explanation you provided, but thank you for your time.</p>
<p>BFN,</p>
<p>fp.</p>
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		<title>By: Raen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82755</link>
		<dc:creator>Raen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I explained how an embargo works, and how the system works. The reason for spreading them is that it simply keeps focus on the game for longer. You have one piece of information come out at one time, and another come out at another time. They get two stories on Fallout, it keeps it in the public mind for longer. Another example would be Borderlands, they&#039;ve had press come every two weeks or so with a two week embargo. That means that they get a new story about Borderlands every two weeks and keeps PR for the game flowing well.

Joystiq going earlier could be that they simply had a different embargo to get an exclusive on the information. If I&#039;ve missed anything I really don&#039;t know what you&#039;re asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explained how an embargo works, and how the system works. The reason for spreading them is that it simply keeps focus on the game for longer. You have one piece of information come out at one time, and another come out at another time. They get two stories on Fallout, it keeps it in the public mind for longer. Another example would be Borderlands, they&#8217;ve had press come every two weeks or so with a two week embargo. That means that they get a new story about Borderlands every two weeks and keeps PR for the game flowing well.</p>
<p>Joystiq going earlier could be that they simply had a different embargo to get an exclusive on the information. If I&#8217;ve missed anything I really don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re asking.</p>
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		<title>By: fanpages</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82750</link>
		<dc:creator>fanpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all reading more into my initial post than I intended.

I was asking if the reason for the delay in releasing the information was known.  So far the responses have tried to educate me on how press releases are timed, but only providing best guesses at the reason to why this was required.

Joystiq also seems to have had a similar embargo, but they chose to release the details a few hours early; maybe I should ask there instead… although, if a genuinely innocent question meets with a similar response perhaps I should not bother.  It just seems odd to release the information in two parts; why not all at once… on 17 September?  I do not see the gain for a two-step approach, in this case.

My mention of whether any advance copies or promotional items were available also seems to have been taken like a personal attack on nofi.

Sorry if you are offended on his behalf.

BFN,

fp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all reading more into my initial post than I intended.</p>
<p>I was asking if the reason for the delay in releasing the information was known.  So far the responses have tried to educate me on how press releases are timed, but only providing best guesses at the reason to why this was required.</p>
<p>Joystiq also seems to have had a similar embargo, but they chose to release the details a few hours early; maybe I should ask there instead… although, if a genuinely innocent question meets with a similar response perhaps I should not bother.  It just seems odd to release the information in two parts; why not all at once… on 17 September?  I do not see the gain for a two-step approach, in this case.</p>
<p>My mention of whether any advance copies or promotional items were available also seems to have been taken like a personal attack on nofi.</p>
<p>Sorry if you are offended on his behalf.</p>
<p>BFN,</p>
<p>fp.</p>
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		<title>By: Raen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82746</link>
		<dc:creator>Raen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite looking forward to Rage for the walking reason, cars instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite looking forward to Rage for the walking reason, cars instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Roynaldo</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82743</link>
		<dc:creator>Roynaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This game hasbeen gathering dust for months now, just doesnt float my boat...very buggy/glitchy and quite a bore walking around all over the place without really doing much but hoarding items.

Will pick it back up one day though, doubtful to be until 2010 though with all the other great stuff coming our way.

DLC is so far out of my mind for thisgame its like a little speck of dust on my radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This game hasbeen gathering dust for months now, just doesnt float my boat&#8230;very buggy/glitchy and quite a bore walking around all over the place without really doing much but hoarding items.</p>
<p>Will pick it back up one day though, doubtful to be until 2010 though with all the other great stuff coming our way.</p>
<p>DLC is so far out of my mind for thisgame its like a little speck of dust on my radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Shlomi1995</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82738</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomi1995</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article has been posted/mentioned by the EU PS blog in their &quot;PS What we read&quot; feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has been posted/mentioned by the EU PS blog in their &#8220;PS What we read&#8221; feature.</p>
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		<title>By: LiquescentShadow</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82736</link>
		<dc:creator>LiquescentShadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fanpages:

I really don&#039;t know what you&#039;re on about. Sometimes websites are given information which has to be withheld until a specific time and date for any number of reasons. Everyone knew that the DLC and GOTY was coming to the PS3, it&#039;s just the cost and specific date. This could be withheld for any number of reasons, an example being to prevent the damage of sales. If a website/publication leaked the date of the GOTY edition, it would put people off buying the regular edition. Same as the PS3 Slim - if it had been outright confirmed as coming on a specific date early on it would have hurt sales of the existing models. As the writer/administrator of a news website you should be fully aware of these types of things.

As for suggesting there were incentives involved, it&#039;s quite a silly accusation. If a developer or publisher provides a site with this information it&#039;s just a matter of courtesy and trust that prevents the site from leaking it. We all know how damaging leaks can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fanpages:</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re on about. Sometimes websites are given information which has to be withheld until a specific time and date for any number of reasons. Everyone knew that the DLC and GOTY was coming to the PS3, it&#8217;s just the cost and specific date. This could be withheld for any number of reasons, an example being to prevent the damage of sales. If a website/publication leaked the date of the GOTY edition, it would put people off buying the regular edition. Same as the PS3 Slim &#8211; if it had been outright confirmed as coming on a specific date early on it would have hurt sales of the existing models. As the writer/administrator of a news website you should be fully aware of these types of things.</p>
<p>As for suggesting there were incentives involved, it&#8217;s quite a silly accusation. If a developer or publisher provides a site with this information it&#8217;s just a matter of courtesy and trust that prevents the site from leaking it. We all know how damaging leaks can be.</p>
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		<title>By: fanpages</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82735</link>
		<dc:creator>fanpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: Some images of the (US) box art...

[ http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/17/fallout-3-goty-edition-ps3-dlc-dated/ ]

BFN,

fp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: Some images of the (US) box art&#8230;</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/17/fallout-3-goty-edition-ps3-dlc-dated/" rel="nofollow">http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/17/fallout-3-goty-edition-ps3-dlc-dated/</a> ]</p>
<p>BFN,</p>
<p>fp.</p>
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		<title>By: Raen</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82734</link>
		<dc:creator>Raen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An embargo means that the publisher won&#039;t let a media outlet report on them officially. While not always a legally binding document it tends to put you significantly in the publishers/PR company&#039;s bad books if you break it. These are imposed for a number of reasons, from stopping secrets coming out early to ensuring that press arrives at the correct time for a particular title. It may not be that you&#039;re offered anything other than a good working relationship for keeping something under embargo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An embargo means that the publisher won&#8217;t let a media outlet report on them officially. While not always a legally binding document it tends to put you significantly in the publishers/PR company&#8217;s bad books if you break it. These are imposed for a number of reasons, from stopping secrets coming out early to ensuring that press arrives at the correct time for a particular title. It may not be that you&#8217;re offered anything other than a good working relationship for keeping something under embargo.</p>
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		<title>By: fanpages</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82725</link>
		<dc:creator>fanpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not that I do not understand English; what I was asking is the reason why the details had to be retained until the specified date.

You obviously do not know, or are unable to tell me due to other restrictions.

Thanks anyway.

BFN,

fp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not that I do not understand English; what I was asking is the reason why the details had to be retained until the specified date.</p>
<p>You obviously do not know, or are unable to tell me due to other restrictions.</p>
<p>Thanks anyway.</p>
<p>BFN,</p>
<p>fp.</p>
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		<title>By: nofi</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82724</link>
		<dc:creator>nofi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what you don&#039;t understand - the release dates and pricing for the DLC was embargoed, worldwide, until the time and date I said.  That&#039;s how these things sometimes work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you don&#8217;t understand &#8211; the release dates and pricing for the DLC was embargoed, worldwide, until the time and date I said.  That&#8217;s how these things sometimes work.</p>
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		<title>By: fanpages</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82723</link>
		<dc:creator>fanpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was not &#039;implying&#039; anything.  I know you have received other promotional items before; you have reported on these before here at The Sixth Axis.

No, I did not include any more information than I had available at the time of writing at 1upGamers.com, but I did not revisit the thread as I am not a fan of what I have seen of &quot;Fallout 3&quot;.   My Collector&#039;s Edition remains as sealed as it was when I bought it in GAME’s sale last December.  If I ever run out of something to play, it is there for emergencies, or for trading with somebody for a game I favour more.

I was just curious [some would say I was like that anyway] as to why the additional information was retained.  Why the big secret?

BFN,

fp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was not &#8216;implying&#8217; anything.  I know you have received other promotional items before; you have reported on these before here at The Sixth Axis.</p>
<p>No, I did not include any more information than I had available at the time of writing at 1upGamers.com, but I did not revisit the thread as I am not a fan of what I have seen of &#8220;Fallout 3&#8243;.   My Collector&#8217;s Edition remains as sealed as it was when I bought it in GAME’s sale last December.  If I ever run out of something to play, it is there for emergencies, or for trading with somebody for a game I favour more.</p>
<p>I was just curious [some would say I was like that anyway] as to why the additional information was retained.  Why the big secret?</p>
<p>BFN,</p>
<p>fp.</p>
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		<title>By: iNsAnE_gAmInG</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82675</link>
		<dc:creator>iNsAnE_gAmInG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, indeed it is. This, Fifa 10 and Uncharted 2 are what I want, but I think I&#039;ll just get Fifa.
Fallout 3 is the best game on PS3 in my view, so you should understand I&#039;m hyped that all this contents on the way. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, indeed it is. This, Fifa 10 and Uncharted 2 are what I want, but I think I&#8217;ll just get Fifa.<br />
Fallout 3 is the best game on PS3 in my view, so you should understand I&#8217;m hyped that all this contents on the way. <img src='http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rht992</title>
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		<dc:creator>rht992</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dammit why october? thats my most expensive month in gaming this year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dammit why october? thats my most expensive month in gaming this year</p>
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		<title>By: nofi</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82648</link>
		<dc:creator>nofi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your report didn&#039;t include the DLC, or their dates.  Details on those were embargoed until 3pm on the 17th.

Please don&#039;t imply we were &#039;enticed with goodies&#039; - dangerous grounds.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your report didn&#8217;t include the DLC, or their dates.  Details on those were embargoed until 3pm on the 17th.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t imply we were &#8216;enticed with goodies&#8217; &#8211; dangerous grounds.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: fanpages</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-3/#comment-82646</link>
		<dc:creator>fanpages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realise there was an embargo with regards reporting on this, Nofi.

I wrote the text at the following hyperlink on 11 August 2009...

[ http://www.1upgamers.com/forums/fallout-3-game-year-edition-t997.html ]


What was so secret about the information, and what promotional goodies were you enticed with so you wouldn&#039;t &#039;Fallout&#039; with Sony &amp;/or Bethesda?

BFN,

fp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realise there was an embargo with regards reporting on this, Nofi.</p>
<p>I wrote the text at the following hyperlink on 11 August 2009&#8230;</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://www.1upgamers.com/forums/fallout-3-game-year-edition-t997.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.1upgamers.com/forums/fallout-3-game-year-edition-t997.html</a> ]</p>
<p>What was so secret about the information, and what promotional goodies were you enticed with so you wouldn&#8217;t &#8216;Fallout&#8217; with Sony &amp;/or Bethesda?</p>
<p>BFN,</p>
<p>fp.</p>
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		<title>By: iNsAnE_gAmInG</title>
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		<dc:creator>iNsAnE_gAmInG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be like another whole game!
Plus LOADS more trophies and we&#039;ll all be saving money if we have all the packs with the GOTY. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be like another whole game!<br />
Plus LOADS more trophies and we&#8217;ll all be saving money if we have all the packs with the GOTY. <img src='http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: iNsAnE_gAmInG</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-2/#comment-82399</link>
		<dc:creator>iNsAnE_gAmInG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might just install all of it onto your HDD though. :(
I&#039;m not fussed though, my 320GB needs something to fill it up. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might just install all of it onto your HDD though. <img src='http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;m not fussed though, my 320GB needs something to fill it up. <img src='http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: flatfour</title>
		<link>http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/17/fallout-dlc-and-game-of-the-year-dated/comment-page-2/#comment-81891</link>
		<dc:creator>flatfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe it&#039;s finally gonna be here, y&#039;know it just doesn&#039;t seem real !</description>
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		<title>By: flatfour</title>
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		<dc:creator>flatfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it doesn&#039;t matter which magazine, website, retailer calls something their Game of The Year, that the publisher will then release a GoTY edition.

With so many print and online magazines around there&#039;ll be quite a few &#039;games of the year&#039;.

I guess it will say on the back of the box whose particular opinion they used to claim the accolade...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it doesn&#8217;t matter which magazine, website, retailer calls something their Game of The Year, that the publisher will then release a GoTY edition.</p>
<p>With so many print and online magazines around there&#8217;ll be quite a few &#8216;games of the year&#8217;.</p>
<p>I guess it will say on the back of the box whose particular opinion they used to claim the accolade&#8230;</p>
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