Comments on: Fighting Games: The Most Badly Named Genre http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/ PlayStation and Xbox News, Reviews and Discussion Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:47:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Calorie Shifting Diet Review | Food Health Wisdom http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100651 Calorie Shifting Diet Review | Food Health Wisdom Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:34:45 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100651 [...] Fighting Games: The Most Badly Named Genre – TheSixthAxis – PS3 … [...] [...] Fighting Games: The Most Badly Named Genre – TheSixthAxis – PS3 … [...]

]]> By: poorwretch http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100585 poorwretch Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:28:50 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100585 No the question is right Tekken or Virtua Fighter? The answer: Street Fighter No the question is right
Tekken or Virtua Fighter?

The answer: Street Fighter

]]> By: TctclMvPhase http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100526 TctclMvPhase Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:36:15 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100526 :cough" DOA?:cough: More seriously though, I like Virtua Fighter because of the logical connection between button presses and on-screen action (one button per limb) but have always had issues with the timing. I think Tekken has a more jovial tone to it and more interesting characters, so I like it on a more superficial level. Then again my all-time favorite is still Bushido Blade... :cough” DOA?:cough:

More seriously though, I like Virtua Fighter because of the logical connection between button presses and on-screen action (one button per limb) but have always had issues with the timing. I think Tekken has a more jovial tone to it and more interesting characters, so I like it on a more superficial level. Then again my all-time favorite is still Bushido Blade…

]]> By: mayflame http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100488 mayflame Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:46:30 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100488 BlazBlue was probably one of the best fighting games this year. BlazBlue was probably one of the best fighting games this year.

]]> By: mayflame http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100487 mayflame Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:44:06 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100487 Tekken just gets wierder and wierder with every new installment. Tekken just gets wierder and wierder with every new installment.

]]> By: mayflame http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100485 mayflame Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:41:43 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100485 I agree too. I had more trouble playing Soulcalibur 4 on the 360 than I had on the PS3. The Sixaxis/DS3 D-pad works great on fighting games. I agree too. I had more trouble playing Soulcalibur 4 on the 360 than I had on the PS3. The Sixaxis/DS3 D-pad works great on fighting games.

]]> By: 3shirts http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100468 3shirts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:50:44 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100468 The recent Tutles In Time HD release is a good one for old school, multiplayer, side scrolling beat em up. The recent Tutles In Time HD release is a good one for old school, multiplayer, side scrolling beat em up.

]]> By: Gamoc http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100462 Gamoc Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:40:53 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100462 The 360 pad is roughly 200x shitter than the PS3 pad. The 360 pad is roughly 200x shitter than the PS3 pad.

]]> By: skibadee http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100451 skibadee Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:52:25 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100451 not that great myself poo at street fighter not that great myself poo at street fighter

]]> By: Badrhino http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100450 Badrhino Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:49:30 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100450 I used to lose constantly to the 'king of button mashers', my girlfriends ten year old brother. So one night I "borrowed" his favourite fighting game (Tekken 3) and stayed up half the night learning all the characters counter attacks. The next day I sneaked back his game and challenged the little git to a rematch. I didn't even have to punch or kick, as I sat back and countered almost everything he threw at me. It still makes me chuckle thinking about him crying with frustration and smashing up his controller. Happy days :) I used to lose constantly to the ‘king of button mashers’, my girlfriends ten year old brother. So one night I “borrowed” his favourite fighting game (Tekken 3) and stayed up half the night learning all the characters counter attacks.

The next day I sneaked back his game and challenged the little git to a rematch. I didn’t even have to punch or kick, as I sat back and countered almost everything he threw at me. It still makes me chuckle thinking about him crying with frustration and smashing up his controller. Happy days :)

]]> By: iNsAnE_gAmInG http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100436 iNsAnE_gAmInG Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:07:00 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100436 Spamming is awesome but evidently frustrating for whoever is on the recieving end of the spam fest. I can remember being worse than worse on Soul Calibur IV on PS3, however I soon found two methods of victory via Darth Vadar. 1) Spam one button (can't remember which one) that made the man in black swing down his red light of death over and over again and just near-enough ground impound my opponents without having to be off his feet (who needs the force?) 2) Whenever I get close to an edge i would use his move where he picks the up and lifts them above his head throws them; when the angle was right a 'Ring Out' was an inevitability. Sure I was threatened on multiple times by people claiming if I don't 'Use some new moves' they would 'be forced to use Kilik (or whatever his name was) or they would report me for being a cheater (despite the fact I was not cheating, just being a noob and a bad player). However, using these two brilliant techniques that carried small failure rates when used by a pro noob like me, I really was the daddy of Soul Calibur whilst my character Darth Vader remian 'The Father' of not only Luke Skywalker, but Asteroph, Rafael and all them idiotic lifeforms that fail with all their fancy s***. :D Spamming is awesome but evidently frustrating for whoever is on the recieving end of the spam fest. I can remember being worse than worse on Soul Calibur IV on PS3, however I soon found two methods of victory via Darth Vadar. 1) Spam one button (can’t remember which one) that made the man in black swing down his red light of death over and over again and just near-enough ground impound my opponents without having to be off his feet (who needs the force?) 2) Whenever I get close to an edge i would use his move where he picks the up and lifts them above his head throws them; when the angle was right a ‘Ring Out’ was an inevitability.
Sure I was threatened on multiple times by people claiming if I don’t ‘Use some new moves’ they would ‘be forced to use Kilik (or whatever his name was) or they would report me for being a cheater (despite the fact I was not cheating, just being a noob and a bad player). However, using these two brilliant techniques that carried small failure rates when used by a pro noob like me, I really was the daddy of Soul Calibur whilst my character Darth Vader remian ‘The Father’ of not only Luke Skywalker, but Asteroph, Rafael and all them idiotic lifeforms that fail with all their fancy s***. :D

]]> By: teflon http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100424 teflon Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:20:43 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100424 How about "Arena Based Fighter" or ABF? Then you've got a much better distinction between ABFs and Beat 'em Ups where you go from one left to right beating everything up in your path. Though maybe Beat 'em Ups should be called Side Scrolling Fighters... Its like a "shooter" is something like Metal Slug, but a TPS and FPS are just shooters from different perspectives. So surely Metal Slug is a Side Scrolling Shooter? How about “Arena Based Fighter” or ABF?
Then you’ve got a much better distinction between ABFs and Beat ‘em Ups where you go from one left to right beating everything up in your path. Though maybe Beat ‘em Ups should be called Side Scrolling Fighters…

Its like a “shooter” is something like Metal Slug, but a TPS and FPS are just shooters from different perspectives. So surely Metal Slug is a Side Scrolling Shooter?

]]> By: FRUIT0FDOOM http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100415 FRUIT0FDOOM Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:52:42 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100415 You know the new 360 pads are much better right? You know the new 360 pads are much better right?

]]> By: aerobes http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100407 aerobes Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:32:47 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100407 Yeah, I imagine thats true, I do miss (what i would consider) Beat 'em ups though, Double Dragon, Target Renegade and that sort of thing. Having said that though, A game of that type would probably be so hard to make these days at full price, I certainly wouldn't say no to a HD update of Target Renegade on PSN! :D Yeah, I imagine thats true, I do miss (what i would consider) Beat ‘em ups though, Double Dragon, Target Renegade and that sort of thing.
Having said that though, A game of that type would probably be so hard to make these days at full price, I certainly wouldn’t say no to a HD update of Target Renegade on PSN! :D

]]> By: 3shirts http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100403 3shirts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:23:10 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100403 @aerobes I think thats just because they don't want to have too many different categories. @aerobes I think thats just because they don’t want to have too many different categories.

]]> By: aerobes http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100400 aerobes Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:09:45 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100400 On the Sony Playstation website it lists the genre as 'Fighting / Beat ‘em up'. So I suppose its called whatever you like ... :) On the Sony Playstation website it lists the genre as ‘Fighting / Beat ‘em up’.

So I suppose its called whatever you like … :)

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]]> By: cc_star http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-1/#comment-100397 cc_star Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:53:56 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100397 In a 1 player game it was best to use the 8 keys surrounding the S key, and I think player 2 had to use the 8 keys surrounding the J key... Good times. In a 1 player game it was best to use the 8 keys surrounding the S key, and I think player 2 had to use the 8 keys surrounding the J key… Good times.

]]> By: Quinlank http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100395 Quinlank Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:51:02 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100395 The way Sega handled Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 was pretty shocking. I remember reading at the time how they simply rush ported the arcade version of the game to the point where they didn't even create any new AI for the game, just reusing what they had from the PS2 VF4 Evolution in it. It's easier to understand major developers not putting any real effort into the PS3 so much back then in hindsight though I suppose. The fighting genre has grown really stale of late in my opinion, with Tekken 6 being a great example of a series that has not evolved a jot in gameplay terms since it began. It looks great, yeah(Though not as much as Soul Calibur 4 it must be said, with the Scenario mode visuals being particularly laughable), but it plays like the PS1 games to me, and Azazel, the final boss, is the single cheapest boss in beat em up history, yes, even more than Seth in Street Fighter 4! Perhaps I just don't like these sorts of games anymore, but if the genre hasn't got anything new to bring to the table, then I can't really see a reason to bother with new releases when the pinnacle of the genre seems to already exist with Street Fighter 2, which I can just fire up any time I get the urge to play my friends. The way Sega handled Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 was pretty shocking. I remember reading at the time how they simply rush ported the arcade version of the game to the point where they didn’t even create any new AI for the game, just reusing what they had from the PS2 VF4 Evolution in it. It’s easier to understand major developers not putting any real effort into the PS3 so much back then in hindsight though I suppose.

The fighting genre has grown really stale of late in my opinion, with Tekken 6 being a great example of a series that has not evolved a jot in gameplay terms since it began. It looks great, yeah(Though not as much as Soul Calibur 4 it must be said, with the Scenario mode visuals being particularly laughable), but it plays like the PS1 games to me, and Azazel, the final boss, is the single cheapest boss in beat em up history, yes, even more than Seth in Street Fighter 4!

Perhaps I just don’t like these sorts of games anymore, but if the genre hasn’t got anything new to bring to the table, then I can’t really see a reason to bother with new releases when the pinnacle of the genre seems to already exist with Street Fighter 2, which I can just fire up any time I get the urge to play my friends.

]]> By: BadBoyBoogie http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/11/08/fighting-games-the-most-badly-named-genre/comment-page-2/#comment-100396 BadBoyBoogie Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:51:02 +0000 http://www.thesixthaxis.com/?p=25552#comment-100396 I hate random button mashing too...beats me every time!!! ;) I hate random button mashing too…beats me every time!!! ;)

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