A week or two ago I posted an article regarding the supermarket ASDA and their admission to selling certain games at a loss. In that article I pondered the possibility of the downfall of other retailers and, in turn, a negative impact on the industry as a whole. A lot of you that read that article either didn’t understand where I was coming from, or simply didn’t agree. Earlier today, I asked the question: ‘What’s the point of embargoes?’ Well, it would appear that a single game, and yes, I’m afraid we are talking of Modern Warfare 2 again, has managed to bring both of the above posts back into relevance.
It has been revealed that copies of Modern Warfare 2 were being shipped to retailers as early as Wednesday last week and then shipped on to consumers immediately. Some of you may well be asking: ‘What’s the big deal?’ In this case, and more than likely in the case of FIFA 10, the cheap prices offered by Supermarkets in addition to the disregard of the game’s street date by others has lead to hundreds of cancelled orders for many outlets. There is also a fear that even more refunds will have to be handed out as news spreads of prices being slashed in a Supermarket price war.
SimplyGames is one such retailer experiencing a loss due to these two factors. Speaking with GI.biz, SimplyGames MD – Neil Muspratt – spoke about his experience with this title in particular:
So far it appears that the street date of Modern Warfare has been one of the most commonly broken in the history of UK games retailing. We only got our stock on Saturday and have had to pay for every copy to go out by courier in order that it reaches people tomorrow
We’ve seen dispatch notes, delivery reports and hundreds of cancelled orders from people who received their copy early
Even large online retailers such as ShopTo are finding it to be a rather disturbing situation. It’s not just sales of the game as new that they are concerned about either. Igor Cipolletta, ShopTo’s CEO, has voiced his concerns about the value of the game as a trade-in. This is a point that I hadn’t even considered; and what a point it is. Say you bought MW2 for £40 and, in a months time, you decide to trade; what do you expect to get for your trade when many people bought the game for under £30? It’s not going to be a lot, is it? The second-hand games market is where most retailers make the bulk of their income due to the lack of ‘middle-men’.
Whilst the MD of Chips has praised Activision for their handling of the release, the above problems can solved by the publishers. As stated in my previous articles, if supermarkets start selling at a loss, more and more retailers could struggle and subsequently stop trying to keep up, which in turn could lead to a damaging effect for the developers and publishers themselves. Mr. Cipoletta has echoed this sentiment by saying:
Publishers may need to begin categorising their customers and supplying the right product to the right ones. For example, a mass market title like Professor Layton may be more oriented to a supermarket, whereas a ‘hardcore’ title such as MW2 might be better suited to specialist retailers, otherwise we may find ourselves in a position where there will be less unit sales, which will hurt publishers and their investments as a result
Some see the problem as being Activision’s Tuesday release date, which upsets the ordinary working of things and whilst immediate stock of the game is looking good, fears are growing for the Christmas period and whether or not Activision will be able to keep up.
I truly hope that this doesn’t become the ‘norm’ for big releases. I’m all for grabbing a bargain, but not at the expense of an industry that every single one of us love. I’m trying my hardest to stay impartial on this, but there is one name that keeps popping up: Activision. My next sentence is my opinion and in no way reflects the opinion of TheSixthAxis.com…Activision are slowly appearing as nothing more than a money-hungry entity that has no real passion for the industry in which they compete. I understand they are a business and the whole point is to make money, but after copious iterations of [insert musical term] Hero and Call of Duty, I question their dedication to originality and most of all, Gaming.
cc_star | 09/11/2009 22:57
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I’ve changed my opinion, and I hope supermarkets do it for the launch day of every big game. I don’t agree with the breaking of street dates though, it should be the same rules for everyone.
(can’t you tell my local indie wouldn’t break the street date for me) I’ll be at Sainsburys or maybe Tescos tomorrow (if I decide to pick Borderlands up to get MW for £25)
cc_star | 09/11/2009 23:08
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The discounting is self defeating though, because people will get used to only buying the loss leaders, then people won’t buy the non-discounted games that they need people to so as the division can make a profit. This means if people only buy the discounted games from them then they’ll have to raise this discounted price.
I will say this though, who in their right minds will ever pre-order a game again when you can buy it in store for less
Gastos84 | 09/11/2009 23:11
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Exactly. People are just going to head out to nearest Supermarket and it’s not going to take long before the effects are seen on a broader scale.
JamboGT | 09/11/2009 23:12
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I think the main problem is what you rightfully pointed out. People will get used to buying the biggest games at lower prices. Why then would you pay £40 for an “inferior” product.
jimmy-google | 09/11/2009 23:25
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I stopped preordering after last Christmas – games like Dead Space, Mirrors Edge, Prince of Persia, Little Big Planet (and more) all fell to under £20 by the end of January (some prior to Christmas). I’ve stopped paying more than £25 for a game (though I did break that rule for uncharted 2- and it was well worth it)
bajere | 10/11/2009 08:45
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I agree…the street dates should be universal (altho i dont really loose any sleep seeing people play a game before me!?!?!), and the supermarket price war is a good thing! if walmart want to take the loss for me, then im happy to let them! All the game retailers can go bust for all i care, they have been getting waaayy to fat off our wallets for to many years! and each company buys the game from the publisher at the same rate, so the actual gaming industry (people who build the game, not GAME stores etc) still get the same amount of money.
If it turns out that we can only get our games from the big 4 supermarkets, then so be it! we will get the savings! Anyone who likes a drink will know this is a good example of savings for shopping in suppermarkets: coming up to xmas last year: 2 creates of stella (24 bottles) = £16 in ASDA. 24 bottles in local offie = £30!?!?! SOOO… MW2 £26 in Sainsburys or MW2 in indi-shops £40-£45…wont take long before people treat gaming like booze! lol
carlosfilippsen | 09/11/2009 23:00
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I agree. I love to get a bargain but if it carries on like this it will ruin the game industry. Supermarkets could sell games cheaper than other retailers but not for almost half the normal retail price. They really need to sort this out.
carlosfilippsen | 09/11/2009 23:03
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I dont think retailers like GAME lose out though. Because a lot of parents and kids who dont know where to get the game cheaper will be queuing up at places such as GAME and Gamestation to get their copy of the game for the normal retail price.
Gastos84 | 09/11/2009 23:13
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I don’t think GAME are as resiliant as people think though and how long before Mrs. Bloggs realises she can do this whilst doing the weekly shop? Not long, IMO.
skibadee | 09/11/2009 23:07
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it goes both ways with shops like game selling them for way to much
skibadee | 09/11/2009 23:10
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but parents & there kids are all ways going to the big 3 for there shopping so this may change
carlosfilippsen | 09/11/2009 23:11
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True. It aint way too much though, its just the normal retail price and if you think, it is worth it for a game like MW2. I love bargains though, I reserved my copy of MW2 to pick up tomorrow at sainsburys for £26. But if you really think, supermarkets could damage the game industry by selling these big games for almost half the retail price.
JamboGT | 09/11/2009 23:02
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Activision and Blizzard together make just too big a company, too much influence, too much at stake. Games aren’t important to something that size, its merely about the biggest bang for their buck.
Jamie Solo | 09/11/2009 23:14
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Dont worry. A LOT of people agree with your opinion about activision.
carlosfilippsen | 09/11/2009 23:17
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I agree. They do have money in their minds but they produce some amazing games.
Doddsy | 09/11/2009 23:25
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They publish good games, the clever people make them.
carlosfilippsen | 09/11/2009 23:42
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Thats what I meant
Michael | 09/11/2009 23:18
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Right, who’s up for paying £55 a pop and saving the industry?
MarkSawbo | 09/11/2009 23:21
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made me laugh
Cort | 10/11/2009 03:17
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I remember paying about £50 for N64 games in 1997. In real terms, a full-priced MW2 is about half the price of GoldenEye 007.
Gastos84 | 10/11/2009 08:01
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Lol Now now Michael, let’s not be facetious!
The price of MW2 is the problem. If it were standard retail price then it might not be as big a deal.
jontheking | 09/11/2009 23:21
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i think the supermarket price is all too tempting, and i imagine the publishers wont care as they will already have their money from the supermarkets that have bought their copies of the game. yes i would hate to see the main games market suffer as a result of the supermarkets tactics but it could be worse, at least some of the offers are only for a limited time.
Kevling | 09/11/2009 23:22
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Some good points here, but don’t agree with the trade-in issue.
A quick check of CEX for the most recent supermarket price slash, FIFA 10, shows they are offering £24 cash or £30 trade-in, so doesn’t look to have been much of an impact there…
http://www.cex.co.uk/products/Gaming/Console%20Gaming/Playstation3%20Software/index.php?sku=5030930077983&name=FIFA%2010&mode=buy
xdarkmagician | 09/11/2009 23:31
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Very good article. This is one of those situations where everybody is too busy having fun to notice the consequences their actions could have. Several years from now you might be wondering why you have a limited number of new games to choose from, or why nobody lets you pre-order games anymore.
cc_star | 09/11/2009 23:33
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Actually I’m going to harden my stance further
F ‘em, gaming is one of the biggest industries in the world, if you can’t make money out of it as a publisher, distributor or retailer you don’t deserve to be in business.
It’s some of the devs I feel sorry for especially some British ones, as this country has long been a mainstay of this creative industries but because other countries give tax breaks, develoent is moving abroad and jobs along with creativity are lost.
MarkSawbo | 09/11/2009 23:46
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o when are you posting up the mw2 competition results btw?
Raen | 10/11/2009 09:30
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An excellent point, if they can’t make money out of games that sell tens of millions of copies worldwide then something is wrong somewhere.
And yes, it’s super hard for developers at the moment. There are some (particularly in Brighton and a few other pockets in the south) who are thriving, but the development community in the north east seems to be having a really tough time right now. It used to be such a thriving area as well.
MarkSawbo | 09/11/2009 23:45
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If im honest, my wallet is the most important thing when buying something and of course id rathe rpay £26 for mw2 then £44.99.
Lorcan | 10/11/2009 07:47
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Couldn’t agree with the last paragraph more.
Also with the whole supermarket dominating thing, I’m on the “they should stop it” side of the fence.
Has anyone here ever seen the size of the game shelves in a supermarket?
If they’re lucky, media as a whole will get an aisle. Is that really the type of place we want dominating the market?
cc_star | 10/11/2009 08:39
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If it’s £15 cheaper than the next cheapest place, then yes, I’m not made of money.
bajere | 10/11/2009 09:43
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it must just be your local stores, ASDA’s in Bristol have lots of choice when it comes to games, i have always picked up want…
Roarster | 10/11/2009 09:36
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I don’t feel any sympathy for Game or HMV and the rest, they’re just as guilty of these sort of tactics in order to kill off the indies.
I do feel a level of sympathy for the indie game shops who clearly can’t compete, but if they want me to spend extra at their shops they need to offer me something extra and I’m afraid heavy metal music and the feint smell of dope isn’t enough to justify the extra 25 quid.
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I do feel sympathy for other retailers. People who say they are ripping people off are talking foolishly – it’s not a rip off to make a profit, a rip-off is something grossly overpriced and if more people knew the expense of high-street/shopping centre trading I think they’d change their tune when exclaiming “rip-off” – specialist shops can’t survive by only making a couple of quid profit like the supermarkets can.
Supermarkets are devaluing the game industry much like they are the greeting card sector and childrens school wear at the moment, and have done to many other sectors in the past. Things may be becoming cheaper on our wallets perhaps (in the short term at least), but also poor quality and disposable.
In a few years there will only be supermarkets left selling us everything we need, they will be our one stop source for ABSOLUTELY everything.
They will also be our ONLY banks, travel agents, insurers, estate agents etc and most worryingly obviously the only employers in these sectors.
It may sound far fetched but if we have no choice in where to spend our money other than the supermarket, and if they are also our bankers, (bakers, candlestick makers), insurers etc etc, then most of us will work for a supermarket as there will be no other retail/services jobs.
Tesco will probably become so powerful they will pay their employees in products from the shelves – I mean, why give people wages if there is nowhere else to spend them anyway!? haha
What the Supermarkets are doing to the games industry is no different to what’s they did to other retail sectors – when was the last time you went to a proper butcher/fishmonger/bakery? (Greggs doesnt count lol).
Back to games – when HMV/Game/all the Indies etc are gone (or all turned into tiny Cinemas/mobile phone concessions in HMV’s case) we’ll be left with supermarkets selling a narrow selection of rubbish, boring, ugly, cheap and nasty piffle – much like George at Asda clothing.
But our wallets are more important, I know that, but I think we’ll regret it in the end.
On the bright side: when Asda begin their game trade-in service perhaps we’ll be able to swap our old copy of Modern Warfare 2 for a few quid store credit and spend it on Smartprice beans! ha
BadBoyBoogie | 10/11/2009 15:15
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Interesting read and I agree with almost everything you say, but at the end of the day, being in a recession, we the consumer are bound to be looking for the lowest prices of any product, whatever it may be.
Therefore, I’ll be heading off to Sainsbury’s in a couple of hours to hopefully pick up MW2 for £26.
Ro6afc11 | 10/11/2009 18:28
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I agree with what you say in principle but the supermarkets are only interested in the very top titles such as MW2 and Fifa. I pre-ordered UC2 from shopto for 32 quids and I don’t think i would have got it cheaper anywhere on the highstreet. We all know UC2 is a top game but it still wasn’t of interest to the supermarkets to sell for a loss.
Because of the good price I got on that I happily ordered MW2 from shopto for 43 quid. Bit gutted I guess at the way the pricing has gone today but that is the chance you take. Over the course of a year at say a new release game a month i believe you would get better value from shopto.
To top it all though today my daughter rubbed it in by picking up 2 copies from Sainsburys with 15% staff discount on top! She says that price is today only by the way.