Comments on: Datel Sues Microsoft

By: Kitch

Kitch — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:56:42 +0000

M$ rushed the launch of 360 and thats why the RROD etc. It’s also the reason why it’s been hacked. How does Sony allow you to run Linux, change the hard drive and use just about ANY 3rd party kit without it being hacked? Because Sony invested long term.
The PSP has been hacked and some would argue the Homebrew scene is a good thing. As i know nothing about it i couldn’t comment. At the end of the day M$ and Apple BOTH need challenging.

By: skibadee

skibadee — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:00:25 +0000

yeah cash suckers

By: bajere

bajere — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:21 +0000

i think people are looking too deep into things here…
“4GB with the former having a SRP of $39.99 whilst MS’s 512mb version (originally retailing for $59.99) has the same price tag.” that’s where the problem is. M$ are just unhappy that people are getting more value. They throw the 360’s away to get market share, then hope to recoup money in the extras.

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By: Aitrus

Aitrus — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:06:49 +0000

But if Datel can sell cards if they make them smaller, MS’s defense of doing this to stop homebrew is blasted to pieces. As I understand it, it’s the 3rd party cards that makes the homebrew possible, not the size.

By: Watchful

Watchful — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:28:00 +0000

So if I understand correctly, Datel could make and sell third-party memory cards of up to 512MB without any problem? I can see MS using that as the get-out for any anti-competitive challenges. To be honest I can’t blame MS for wanting to remove one route that people have been using to run homebrew software on their 360s either, as nofi pointed out earlier. Rendering useless large memory cards that people have already bought isn’t great, but they’ll just point out that buried in the fine print is something along the lines of “only approved third-party accessories are guaranteed to work”.

By: hazelam

hazelam — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:18:27 +0000

anybody remember when apple were the little guys trying to fight the monopolistic microsoft?
guess what they say about power corrupting is true.
or maybe the one about joining them if you can’t beat them.

By: Uhyve

Uhyve — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:12:21 +0000

Grabbed one off eBuyer called “Belkin G Wireless Client Bridge / Gaming Adapter”, doesn’t seem to be on eBuyer anymore though. It was alittle niggley to set up but then, I didn’t actually read the manual, and I suppose I did get it done eventually…

By: cc_star

cc_star — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:03:03 +0000

Good point Hazelam, I’ve not parted with any money or anything that Apple declines to have on their App Store

And Raen, it’s Google Voice and Google’s Sat Nav thing that I’m interested in on the App store

By: Raen

Raen — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:15 +0000

I think if the Google Voice debacle continues there might be more interest in looking at Apple’s lockdown. Google are certainly big enough to challenge Apple.

By: Raen

Raen — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:46:14 +0000

You already can get a cheaper version of the HDD (maybe not any more). Someone (it may actually be the source company for the 360 HDDs) was bundling the same model drives with a chasis that’d fit the 360 for way less. Might not be happening any more though.

What bridge’d you get? I’m interested in getting one.

By: carlosfilippsen

carlosfilippsen — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:41:40 +0000

Datel FTW!

By: BadBoyBoogie

BadBoyBoogie — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:23:58 +0000

More bullying tactics from Microsoft. Good luck to Datel !!

By: hazelam

hazelam — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:17:15 +0000

except in this case ms were rendering something many people have bought already unusable.
but really they’re the same sort of thing.
what’s needed is some company willing to go up against apple the way datel are going up against ms.
i bet ms would love to be able to dictate what software a windows pc is allowed to run.

By: iiekka

iiekka — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:16:04 +0000

so why do we let them get away with it! need to get the EU onto them, the EU likes to fine MS billions lets do the same again and to apple

By: cc_star

cc_star — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:05:30 +0000

It is no different to Apple declining Apps which compete with services that either Apple or the networks already offer, so yes they are both anti-competitive.

By: iiekka

iiekka — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:59:30 +0000

is it any differnt to apple stopping 3rd party aps being installed on an iphone?

By: seedaripper1973

seedaripper1973 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:49:39 +0000

Another day, another tale of microsofts greed….go Datel! (they used to be just up the road from me)

By: Uhyve

Uhyve — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:49:12 +0000

While that was certainly true on the original Xbox, on the 360, official memory cards are apparently just as easy to use for cheating (since I believe Datel sell a cable that allows you to connect any 360 memory card to a computer… which I suppose have just recently gotten a legitimate use). That hasn’t stopped Microsoft from claiming that they did this to stop cheating though…

I’m actually wondering about the ramifications of this if Datel win. If they did, would that mean that Microsoft could be forced to open up the 360 for other 3rd party peripherals? Maybe we could see a hard drive or wireless adapter that doesn’t cost stupid amounts of money (I actually ended up getting a wireless bridge for £20 instead of getting ripped off for one of those £45 official wireless dongles).

By: jimmy-google

jimmy-google — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:31:25 +0000

They’ll be unhappy about anything that hits their profits even if its i legal. I’m very much on Datel’s side – it’s bad from a consumer point of view as it allows MS to charge what they like (which is a lot). Competition needs to exist.

I guess its MS own fault – there seems to be little to no piracy on ps3 games and you can swap the hard drive out for any 2.5″ hard drive on the market but MS have made their own memory cards and as a result provided a way for the 360to be exploited. Their own greed has got the better of them and back fired.