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Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:55:25 +0000

[...] But what do we have? Well we have a few very indications of the parts that Microsoft and Sony could possibly use in the next generation, and (as far as I’m aware) not a single hint from Nintendo yet. [...]

By: Imaruler

Imaruler — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:25:53 +0000

We will have to wait a long time for the ps4 if this is real.

By: superjag86

superjag86 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:40:45 +0000

Sure thing, I thought I was just adding some extra clarification.

I suppose we won’t know anything for sure for quite a while anyway.

By: Watchful

Watchful — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:41:43 +0000

As I noted in the first paragraph, IBM have only cancelled “further development of the PowerXCell 8i CPU”. They are still making and using other Cell processors, in their super-computers among other things, as are Toshiba who use the Cell in consumer products (and who now wholly own the Cell-making foundry they used to share with Sony).

Whether the PS4 will use a Cell processor is also speculation. There’s no new information in those links that wasn’t in Alex’s post from Monday.

By: superjag86

superjag86 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:48:59 +0000

Found some new info on the “IBM discontinuing Cell story”

http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/11/24/ibm-denies-pulling-out-cell-development/

http://www.driverheaven.net/news.php?newsid=344

It seems it’s only one processor design that’s being discarded whereas other processors in the Cell family will still be developed, including the Cell that will be used in the PS4.

By: iNsAnE_gAmInG

iNsAnE_gAmInG — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:14:24 +0000

I no little about processors and stuff but I am pretty sure 4 gigahertz results in a bloody fast machine.

By: the.tcharles

the.tcharles — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:59:04 +0000

I am brazilian and I just want to say that now sony released the PS2 here officially, but I have bought one at 2003 and I have already a PS3 too, there are stores and importers here too, the bad thing it is that they have no shame of charging around USD$1200,00 for the hardware and USD$150 per game. And a lot of friends have a PS3 too.
WE ARE NOT LOST IN TIME and WE DON’T LIVE IN THE JUNGLE, not anymore at least, we moved to towns with eletricity around 15 years ago, ok, this last statement was a joke, don’t see us as the simpsons does, I never saw a monkey and we do have all technologies that you guys have.

By: gazzagb

gazzagb — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:38:04 +0000

How much more powerful is it than the current PS3 one?

By: BIGAL-1992

BIGAL-1992 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:31 +0000

Let’s wait and see first, as it may be all nonsense in the long run.

By: hazelam

hazelam — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:59:59 +0000

personally all this talk of processors and graphics chips means little to me.
as long as it has decent games on the machine they could make it out of cheese for all i care.
and as for the “which machine is more powerful” argument, couldn’t care less, as i’ll probably have more than one anyway.
but one thing needs to be done for the next playstation.
they need to have routines for all the what are now considered basic console functions ready and working before the launch of the hardware not have them missing and bring them in a year or two down the line so no bloody games support them.

By: skibadee

skibadee — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:18:54 +0000

& a few terabytes of harddrive lol.

By: carlosfilippsen

carlosfilippsen — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:40:43 +0000

Too early to be talking about PS4, the PS3 still has a lot to improve and a lot to deliver..

By: Apnomis

Apnomis — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:46:30 +0000

Well based on the rumours, the specs of the PS4 are looking pretty impressive! I’m more interested in the GPU at this stage though as that was the main ’slip up’ when developing the PS3, it’s nice to see that they will address that on the PS4.

The big question is though, if the PS4 doesn’t use the Cell will it be possible to have backwards compatibility with PS3 games? Or has IBM’s new processor incorporated enough of the Cell design to allow it? I was kind of hoping they would have stuck with the Cell to justify the developers investment in learning how to use it – it’s always the same with the Sony console line, they reinvent every generation and cause devs to reinvent as well – the result is amazing games at the end of the lifecycle, but comparably poor games at the start. For once it would have been nice for devs to hit the ground running with a Sony console (although the evolution of games does add to the lifecycle I suppose)…

Eitherway I don’t think we’ll see a PS4 (or Xbox 720) until at least Christmas 2013. So if they’re basing the specs on bleeding edge 2010 specs, it should hopefully give time for the component price to drop – surely Sony won’t make that ‘mistake’ again! One of the things that interests me with the GPU is that it’s got a good cost to performance ratio compared with more traditional GPU’s.

Whatever the future holds for PS4, I sincerely hope Sony make the (current) PSN FULLY compatible with PS4. Imagine unwrapping your shiny (or matt) new PS4 and logging straight in with your existing PSN account – syncing to bring back your PS3 trophies, and continuing on collecting PS4 trophies. In my ‘perfect world’ I could also go to the PS Store and still be able to download and play all the PS3 era PSN games (includling redownloading ones I paid for on PS3), as well as new PS4-only releases, and even insert my old PS3 games and have access to all the same functions as I did on PS3 – online would still work and trophies would still unlock etc. Oh, and Home would be built in and fully integrated and have no load screens! If they did this the PS4 would be a day one buy for me regardless release date/price (within reason), if not I don’t think I’d be quite as eager to upgrade as I was from PS2 to PS3. But surely Sony aren’t daft enough to throw away the PSN (and people’s attachment to their UserID’s and trophies) and start from scratch… are they?!

By: davidjmclare

davidjmclare — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:45:23 +0000

cheers, cant wait for an official announcement of ps4 (of course will be a while yet!) but can wait cos i dont want my ps3 to get outdated!

By: bajere

bajere — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:33:08 +0000

i know…that was my point relating to Damigos. never believe ANYTHING until its in the shipping creates!

By: teflon

teflon — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:58:42 +0000

Id say they’d need to go for an 8 core CPU. If that’s possible in something the size of a PS3 phat, then we’d be onto a winner. Those 8 cores should be capable of emulating a Cell by having each core be a PPE or SPE from the Cell.

I guess that would be a good way to go. But, it would take the PS4 down a very different route, and it’d be relying on a more traditional CPU and GPU set up. Obviously that has pro’s and con’s, but I think it’ll confirm lots of people’s opinions that the PS3 was a big fat failure or mistake on Sony’s part.

By: bunimomike

bunimomike — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:55:34 +0000

It has a “7″ in it so it HAS to be fast. As you can see, I’m quite the uber-geek with my knowledge of hardware.

By: bunimomike

bunimomike — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:53:02 +0000

PS2 in Brazil this week? Oh my god! I don’t rate their chances for getting PixelJunk Shooters before this Christmas

By: double-o-dave

double-o-dave — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:45:30 +0000

Oh yeah, good point, it was a copy and paste so you’ll have to blame Watchful for that!

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