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Death Of A PS3, Part 2

Getting my new Slim up and running.
Published 21/01/2010 at 10:00 by Watchful
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Yesterday you read about my experiences of death and retail.  Today, my tale continues once I had fought my way home through the Christmas shopping traffic.

PS3-Enabled Once More

Roughly twenty four hours after my PS3 had died I was back at home setting up my new Slim.  First impressions were that it does look a lot better ‘in the flesh’ than it does in the pictures.  The buttons look nothing like as tacky as I expected and the LEDs facing upwards instead of being on the front edge adds to its stealthy appearance.  The glossy finish to the front edge with the Sony logo on it looks good too.

I was particularly interested in how it compared audibly against my old PS3 as it was supposed to be much quieter.  Not that my old one ever approached the noise levels of a typical 360 but fan noise was still noticeable.  On the Slim the fan noise sounds like a lower pitch and is indeed significantly quieter even when the console is worked hard.  The Blu-ray drive is generally comparable noise-wise though on the Slim it is much more noticeable when the disc starts or stops spinning.  Now the HDD is at the front of the console instead of being tucked around the side it is easier to discern the sounds that makes too.

I have mentioned elsewhere that I think the key weaknesses of the Slim, compared to my launch-day PS3, are only having half the number of USB ports and no memory card reader.  I can use USB adaptors for my Memory Sticks, etc., but obviously that only exacerbates the problem of the reduced number of USB ports.  I am still baffled why Sony do not include USB ports on the back of the PS3 as that would be much more convenient, I assume, for users of Play TV, and I would prefer to be able to plug in my PlayStation Eye and the external HDD I use for backups around the back and not have to swap them in and out to charge controllers or my headset.

The Restoration (nothing to do with the monarchy)

Speaking of backups, I backup my PS3 weekly, so I had a backup from just four days previously.  Except for losing a few hard-won three-star Spec Ops ratings I expected to be back to normal pretty quickly.  I knew some stuff wouldn’t restore, but thought that would be in the minority.  I had upgraded my original PS3 to a 250GB HDD within a few weeks of getting it and had over 200GB of data on it so I was somewhat surprised when less than 100GB restored to my new Slim.

A quick scout around the XMB showed what was missing; the contents of the Game Data folder, so all the mandatory/optional installs, updates and DLC, and the roughly 50 PSN games I had bought off the PSN Store.  I also noticed that the collection of downloaded videos I had on my PS3 had restored without retaining their download dates, so they were listed in an utterly random order all with identical timestamps.

So the next job, one I did not realise at that time would keep me fully occupied for two evenings, was to re-download the 200+ games and items of free and premium DLC I had got from the PSN Store.  I was surprised there were that many.  It meant that the download queue’s limit of thirty items at a time was woefully inadequate.  Fortunately the download history is numbered so when you have to keep going back into it it is easy to find where you had got to.

After those two evenings (six or seven hours in total) of hammering my 20Mbps connection I had everything re-downloaded and decided to celebrate with a quick boost around Paradise City.  The celebration was somewhat delayed by the next unpleasant surprise Sony had in store for me.  The four gigabytes of Burnout that I had already downloaded did not include the handful of updates that Criterion have applied since the game’s release.  So before picking my ride from the junk yard and hitting the streets I had to wait while another gigabyte of updates downloaded and applied themselves.  Why the files you download from the Store cannot include the updates I do not know.

Trophy Syncing (more like badly-dubbed than lip-synced)

Platinum TrophyMy quick spin in my Diamond P12 (thank The Lords Of Backup that my save games restored) turned into more of a lengthy jaunt as my Burnout sessions are wont to do.  The simple joy of playing Burnout changed to horror though when I earned a trophy.  Not that getting a trophy is bad, it is just that Burnout was my first platinum and I had gone on to get all ninety eight trophies included in the game and its DLC.

I had already synced my trophies after getting my PSN account set up on my new PS3 and it had appeared to work fine, though I had not checked all the trophies.  Calling up the in-game XMB and taking a look at my trophies I was somewhat put out to find that there was only the one Burnout trophy listed in my collection.  I quit the game and went back into the trophy list re-syncing again as I did and was relieved to find all my Burnout trophies present and correct.  I fired up Burnout again, checked the in-game XMB again and they were all still present.  I have since experienced this same disappearing-reappearing trophy behaviour with both Resistance 2 and Uncharted 2 as well.

Tomorrow you can find out what happened when I called Sony and why PS3s in TSA Towers should be quaking in fear.

Comments

Please note that all comments are the opinion of the individual author and not TheSixthAxis.

  1. Did you break out a soldering iron by any chance?


  2. nice can’t wait for tomorrow. i wonder what sony going to say.


    • probably ‘no’ to anything he requested….


      • Hear, hear! Not the most understanding bunch are they?!


  3. I had the same trophy issues as well when my PS3 YLOD but it does sort itself out over time.


    • All of these problems were avoided by me by following Gilksy’s repair guide on youtube. PS3 still going strong nearly 3 months later. The only thing that annoyed me about it was I emailed him to say thanks, and he replied by asking me for a donation! Cheeky sod! Seriously though, the repair cost me £10 for silver heat sink gel, and took me 4 hours. Better than all this hassle and expense if you ask me, and it sounds like we had EXACTLY the same problem.


      • Crikey, is there anyone who frequents this site who’s ps3 hasn’t died on them? Good to hear someone avoided the 145quid Sony death tax though. Well done mate!


  4. I went through the same painful experience of replacing my broken PS3 with a slim before Christmas. Sadly my last backup was a couple of months (and a good few save games) earlier. Generally the process wasn’t too bad, but hearing my uncharted 2 trophies might disappear is worrying.

    /awaits next installment with baited breath!


    • All my trophies are present and accounted for. It’s just that some games don’t seem to recognise they’re there the first time you run them. Other games have been fine.

      Something I didn’t put in the post, but that really annoyed me about the restored backup, was that my VidZone playlists were lost. There certainly can’t be any copy protection reason for those not to be restored.


      • Oop! Best not tell the missus her “boybands of the 90s” playlist has gone! Bonus for me though :)


  5. i guess another reason why sony should update the firmware so trophy synching happens in the background whenever you’re online, kind of like the gamerscore updates on the xbox.


    • i think they should i recovered my psn account on my friend ps3 and took me 35 mins to sync. :(


  6. I’m constantly backing up one of my ps3s on to my 2nd one and vise versa (and keep the back ups on a 1TB usb hard drive). So unless, horror of all horrors, both die at once I should be ok apart from a few games I can’t backup.

    Fortunaely when my 1st ps3 broke it was just the blu-ray drive so I could back everything up but syncing the trophies on the new one took ages and I had to phone Sony so I could re-download my singstar songs.

    The worst thing I’ve had fail was my sky+ box as the I have no way to back anything up and lost everything over night. Sky is now game and playtv sits in its place.


    • You do fully understand that PS3 backup are for that system dependent. So that back will only work on that PS3 any other PS3 can not read that back up.

      Really backup are pointless, unless the problem is a broken harddrive then that backup is useful, if change your PS3 then it is not of use at all.


      • The big advantage of backing up one PS3 to another is that it will copy even the copy-protected game saves. It’s a good idea to backup your game saves to a USB stick or similar even if you don’t backup the whole system, but some games (often EA ones) don’t allow you to copy their save game files.


      • I had the same issue as jimmy-google. The BR went & I backed up my HD on my ipod. New PS3 arrived for Sony & downloaded everything from the ipod on to it. 

        What you said doesnt make sense unless ive miss understood it!!


      • I have noticed that Ubisoft games like to use this silly copy protected save thing going on.

        If want to lock them then encripted in to in PSN username, it really isn’t that complex.


    • You can back up and restore the Sky+ and SkyHD drives, I did when I upgraded mine to 1Tb.
      Need to take them out and do it on a PC though.

      Getting back on topic though, has anyone else noticed that the slim feels a little, well “slow” compared to the original – I reckon it’s just subjective but comparing both of mine side-by-side the 60 does seem a little faster booting and doing things in the XMB.
      Haven’t seen any difference in games though.


  7. I experienced the same trophy experience when I replaced my HDD. I kept getting completely random trophies in games such as Resistance 2 and WipEout HD. When you look at the trophy list from the game it only shows the ones you’ve just “earned” and nothing else. When you synch again however everything is fine so it’s nothing to worry about.

    In the end it was quite funny actually getting all of these random trophies just like that. In Resistance I had managed to get 1000 kills but hadn’t gotten 30 yet


  8. I was under the impression that they take a while to sync (days even) when you change over. I have this to look forward to when I replace my HDD in my 60GB.

    With the games and PSN store stuff why did you make it so hard for yourself and do it at once? Why not just do it on the fly and take some time to enjoy the games you have and cut down on the less frequently used stuff?


    • For a couple of months it did take many attempts to sync


    • I re-downloaded all the PSN stuff in one go just to get it out of the way. I didn’t want to do it piecemeal and keep finding things I’d forgotten.


      • Good point I guess. I am not sure what I would do in the same situation, part of me would want the easy life and the other part wants it all back on the system ASAP.

        Glad it is all OK for you now. Unless part 3 is a real horror story.


  9. I did a backup/restore when I upgraded my hdd, and apart from a glitch the first time I ran wipeout it was flawless. All game data present, and all trophies sync’d after a bit. No idea why your game data was missing – is there an option to select what to store when you run the backup? Or maybe the slim restore doesn’t work right… though that seems unlikely. If I had to do what you had to I’d cry, with the amount of rockband songs i have.


    • Your backup/restore worked like that because you were restoring to the same PS3. It’s when you restore to a different PS3 that things go ‘missing’. The backup/restore I did when I originally upgraded my HDD was flawless (though that was a long time before trophies existed).


  10. As said least message my 60gb PS3 died and used Sales of Good act to get new PS3 slim 250gb for nothing.

    Well my old PS3 60gb had an 250gb HD which I removed and put back the 60gb when took it to the shop. Then just put my old 250gb HD in to another PS3 and got these messages. To format the harddrive but first I need to download firmware on to USB and plug in to PS3 so could format. Now are they using HD to make firmware to work.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/r7t/ps3/18012010089.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/r7t/ps3/18012010090.jpg


    • Yeah, you can’t swap HDD between units without them wanting to be formatted first.


      • The broken PS3 was 3.15.
        The PS3 that was going to get that HDD was 3.15.
        When I put that harddrive in it needed a copy of 3.15 on USB device. It then installled 3.15 again on the system. You can not download from Internet on PS3, it must be on USB.

        So if put in new HDD in system that using 3.15 or higher you will need a copy of current PS3 firmware on USB device before it will even format.


  11. “it does look a lot better ‘in the flesh’ than it does in the pictures.  The buttons look nothing like as tacky as I expected and the LEDs facing upwards instead of being on the front edge adds to its stealthy appearance.  The glossy finish to the front edge with the Sony logo on it looks good too.”

    Aarrghhh !!! Shut up ……….. I want one !


    • I forgot to add that the symbols on the buttons light up too and that looks quite cool in a dark or dimly lit room… :)


      • You’re enjoying this, aren’t you !!! :(
         ;)


      • Why would you think that? :)


      • Do you have a Bravia TV? if so the Bravia link is really cool…. and shortly will be adding even more features to it – I want one too :(


      • Me? No, I have a Samsung. Don’t you start I’m skint enough as it is ! ;-)


    • The big thing I notice was lot smaller then old PS3 and a lot lighter. Moving the slim to connect HDMI cable I could move it with one hand, the old PS3 had to use to hands for fear of droping it.


  12. It’s understandable that protected content is not able to be transferred between PS3’s, which is why I never bother backing up my PS3. I suppose really I should back up my save files, just in case, but it’s not worth spending time backing up everything as if you need a new PS3 you will not be able to restore it anyway!

    I am currently working under the assumption that if the worst did ever happen to me I would be able to do a DIY fix using one of the many tutorials on YouTube etc and then use the new System Transfer function to transfer all the data to a new PS3 Slim before it dies again…

    I suppose the only risk you avoid with a full backup is the risk that your HDD (rather than your PS3) dies.


  13. Guys just to let you all know, ‘Domestic and General’ underwrote the ‘Continuous Play’ insurance policies. About 4 months ago I called them and yes they informed me that the service has been pulled but I was out of warranty and didn’t want to lose my PS3 So the guy did some digging and asked a few questions just to make sure I wasn’t a scammer and offered me 3 months free and paying £15 for 8 months, interest free with a total cost of £120 and that covers me against anything for 3 years. Which, if you didn’t like me take out a GAME policy at point of purchase you either risk not having cover or pay £120 which for 3 years cover out of warranty is pretty good and continuous play would have cost that for 2 years. Just a thought…


  14. Totally agree on the “slim looks better in the flesh” comment, I hated the look of the slim until I got one. I still don’t like the finish on the top, but you don;t really see that when it’s in place under the TV, just the front. Really like how the panel with the buttons is almost mirrored as well.

    The USB port situation is ridiculous though. I’ve run a 4 port usb hub down by the side of my slim (although it struggles if you plug more than three things into it, so it runs my PSEye, Headset dock and a controller charger dock). Just leaves the remaining port for a USB stick that I back today’s saved games up to at the end of every session.


  15. A friend of mine has set up http://www.yellowlight.co.uk/ after struggling to find anything similar out there. It’s aiming to be a ‘one stop shop’ for information about the YLoD, what causes it, how to fix it, etc., and has a forum for members to share their YLoD experiences and/or nightmares.
    It only went live yesterday, so there aren’t many of us yet, but if you’ve had a YLoD, please feel free to come along and let everyone know how you got on.



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