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Did SCEE Get The PixelJunk Sale Completely Wrong?

Complains - are they warranted?

Earlier in the week the US division of SCE had all but the very latest PixelJunk games on sale for a dollar. The expectation – rightly – was that SCEE would do the same, and we could grab some of the PSN’s best games for a matter of pennies.

However, that wasn’t the case.

The full list of titles is as follows: note that some of the games are actually over three pound, and only discounted if you’re a PlayStation Plus subscriber, which has an RRP of £40 a year.

  • PixelJunk Monsters (£1.99, €2.49) (€0.99 for Plus members)
  • PixelJunk Eden (£3.19, €3.99) (€0.99 for Plus members)
  • PixelJunk Shooter (£3.19, €3.99) (€0.99 for Plus members)
  • PixelJunk Shooter 2 (£3.19, €3.99)
  • PixelJunk Racers 2nd Lap (£3.19, €3.99) (€0.99 for Plus members)
  • PixelJunk Side Scroller (£3.19, €3.99)


PixelJunk Shooter - cheap if you're a Plus member, not so much otherwise.
“It’s a bit disappointing to see you making those Pixeljunk games much more expensive for non-Plus members,” says one user on the EU PlayStation Blog.

“It seems a bit unfair to have European gamers pay so much more for the same games. At a dollar a piece, I would have certainly given these games a try. At 4 euros a piece, I don’t think I’ll try them out.”

SCEE’s Jawad Ashraf replied on the Blog. “Unfortunately the pricing is something we have to make do with,” he said.

“It was a difficult decision and we only hoped to have done exactly the same sort of offer.”

Jawad doesn’t continue to answer any further questions on the PixelJunk pricing, sadly. “The difference between the US and European pixeljunk sales is downright insulting,” says a user in the comments. “Another greedy move from SCEE,” says another.

The comments continue, and go mostly unanswered yesterday. “It was a hard decision SCEE had to make and we’re discussing it internally,” Jawad comments this morning.

For European PS3 owners, the situation is frustrating, not least because it doesn’t seem like end users are getting anything like the full story. I’m not stupid enough to think there aren’t internal issues at hand, but at least let us know why we’re expected to pay considerably more than the US did just a day before for the exact same games.

Even Dylan Cuthbert doesn’t really have the answers.  “It’s a complicated territory,” he said.

Of course, if you’re behind the Plus paywall, please go get your fill of PixelJunk games whilst the sale is on, you’ve only got another six days.

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75 Comments
  1. gazzagb
    Master of speling mitakse
    Since: Feb 2009

    People slate MS for the way they treat their Gold members over their silver ones, and Sony is doing exactly the same thing with PS+, except that it’s getting worse and worse.
    I was going to get some of them, but now I won’t. Sony’s loss.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 15:40.
    • colmshan1990
      Member
      Since: Apr 2009

      Not really.
      Non plus members still have access to all the free streaming services.
      There’s a big difference between not getting as good a sale as PS+ members, and being denied access to free services, as well as online play.

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 15:53.
    • IAmJacksMedullaOblongata
      Member
      Since: Nov 2011

      This isn’t even a PS+ vs non-PS+ argument (which is a different argument in fairness).

      This is US vs EU. Plain and simple. Any US PS3 user can get these games for $1 (or in a bundle foe $2!!!).

      You have to be a PS+ member in the UK to avail of the same deal.

      We can argue that €1 is not equal to $1 as well but that’s not even the main problem with this. All versus some. To use your analogy it’s like Microsoft saying: “Cloud saves for Gold members in the EU. Cloud saves for Silver members in the US.” Why are the US getting a better deal? That’s the question SCEE can’t answer.

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 21:55.
  2. Bodachi
    Member
    Since: Jan 2010

    Day One discount for PS+ make sense but this is to advertise how great Pixeljunk games are and also for 4am coming soon. Should be £1 each for all.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 15:53.
  3. colmshan1990
    Member
    Since: Apr 2009

    While extra discounts for PS+ customers are all well and good, when the US gets a great offer, why can’t Europe?
    I know that sales taxes and such mean they’re not really getting it for a dollar, but they’re certainly getting it for less than $4!

    I’d love some transparency with SCEE, if they’d actually explain one of their controversial calls we might be able to accept it.
    The chance of that happening though? Nil.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 15:57.
  4. Vandix
    Member
    Since: Mar 2009

    First I’d like to say that it’s a bit annoying that we Europeans have to pay more for our games.
    But games are more expensive to make for Europe. I know this is hard to believe, but the biggest problem is localization. For example in France the have french menu’s or speech. In Spain they have spanish menu’s or speech and so on. This is why we pay more, unfortunally the UK and Australia have to suffer because they’re in the same region.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 16:19.
    • hazelam
      Member
      Since: Feb 2009

      yeah, don’t they have spanish and french in the us games too?

      and they put out english only content in europe quite a lot.

      and this content had been out for over a year, localisations, if they had any, and all.

      there’s no excuse for this.

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 19:43.
  5. Kitch
    Member
    Since: Aug 2008

    Just me taking advantage of this then? I’ll just be picking up Racer though. I have the others and Shooter 2 just doesn’t seem to grab me. Might give it a go at that bargain price though.
    I’m also fairly sure some of the people complaining about this were also complaining about a lack of + content. Buy it, Don’t buy it, Sony don’t care. This is a drop in the ocean to the 1.4BN they lost last year.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 16:28.
    • heedbaw
      Member
      Since: Nov 2009

      Maybe the 1.4billion they lost was because they don’t care?

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 19:00.
      • hazelam
        Member
        Since: Feb 2009

        wasn’t that because their other consumer electronics are uncompetitively priced and so aren’t selling well enough?

        Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 19:48.
  6. Crocadillian
    Member
    Since: Feb 2011

    Eurgh, once again it’s territory abuse. THanks for your terrible business practices Sony, what a great long-term strategy to actually respect your customers and to get them to have some respect for you too.

    This is pretty much exactly why I haven’t even bought Journey, I don’t trust or have any respect for Sony to give them my money, and this is one more reminder.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 16:49.
    • skibadee
      Member
      Since: Oct 2009

      drama queen.

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 17:07.
      • Forrest_01
        Member
        Since: Jun 2009

        Bit harsh skib! What he is saying is technically correct.

        We in Europe are treated a bit like the unwanted love spawn still clamouring at daddys leg & getting no attention, no matter ho hard we scream.

        The US seem to get lovely treats of ice cream all the time, yet we get fish heads.

        Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 17:40.
      • skibadee
        Member
        Since: Oct 2009

        some I get but not buying journey is bit silly enjoy the game I did mean to put a smile on the end did not mean it nasty sorry crocadillian.

        Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 17:59.
      • Forrest_01
        Member
        Since: Jun 2009

        Ah fair enough – Obviously i know you & i didn’t think that you meant it nastily, but without the smiley, it did come across as a bit harsh. :)

        For what its worth though, i haven’t picked up journey either – Nothing to do with SCEE though, its just the price bracket is a bit high for me for what it is.

        Comment posted on 11/05/2012 at 10:01.
  7. cc_star
    Team TSA: Writer
    Since: Forever

    There’s two ends to the stick; 1 has candy floss & the other is the shitty end. Everything Sony seem to do as a corporation gives the US the candy floss end, but SCEE always gets the other end.

    I know the US is the largest games market in the world, but considering that the EU was practically as good as Sony’s home territory it’s a bit galling that this happens on a near consistent basis.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 17:49.
  8. The Lone Steven
    Never heard of him.
    Since: May 2010

    I’m not surprised SCEE cba to do the sale. Still can’t believe that they delayed Trine 2 for 3 fecking months despite the motherfecking game being the same as the US version thus should have passed their “Q&A” which is BS as they have let some unplayable stuff onto the store.

    It’s nice to know that us non plusers don’t get any deals. Sony, if you continue to piss on the EU market, you know that market which has helped the PS3 to bloody succeed and is often said to be the home of the Playstation, you will drive away many long time customers.

    At least we can still access PSN without having to worry if there is maintance and it’s not like you don’t warn us a few days in advance oh wait..

    Actually surprised that SCEE hasn’t started to delay the releases of certain games over here.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 19:00.
    • hazelam
      Member
      Since: Feb 2009

      started?
      STARTED? >_<
      they've been doing it for years.

      Auditorium sends a postcard. o_O

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 19:46.
      • RudeAwakening
        Member
        Since: Jan 2011

        Hazelam you really hate SCEE! Haven’t seen ye post so much on one article. :)

        Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 21:03.
      • hazelam
        Member
        Since: Feb 2009

        you been away a lot? ^_^

        but yeah, i do pretty much hate them. >_>

        Comment posted on 11/05/2012 at 08:20.
      • Forrest_01
        Member
        Since: Jun 2009

        Do yourself a favour RudeAwakening & don’t mention the minis.

        Oh crap, i just did! :P

        Comment posted on 11/05/2012 at 10:07.
    • Forrest_01
      Member
      Since: Jun 2009

      It’s ‘QA’ steve not ‘Q&A’.

      QA = Quality Assurance. I am pretty sure it wasn’t delayed due to a question & answer session! :)

      Comment posted on 11/05/2012 at 10:09.
      • The Lone Steven
        Never heard of him.
        Since: May 2010

        Knowing SCEE, it probably was. :p

        Comment posted on 11/05/2012 at 10:10.
      • Forrest_01
        Member
        Since: Jun 2009

        Actually, now you say that, it may well have been. Its as good as an excuse that they have ever given anyway!

        Comment posted on 11/05/2012 at 10:12.
  9. colmshan1990
    Member
    Since: Apr 2009

    The reaction of a few people who are annoyed that the US gets some (but, in fairness, not all) deals better than Europe reminds me of this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK8Mp3OJYjk

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 20:02.
  10. tonycawley
    Pint! Pint!
    Since: Feb 2009

    Oh for fucks sake. Different things cost different money in different countries, get over it!

    Has anyone heard of tax? Each Eu country has different tax rates on sales. US is one country, it has one tax rate. End of.

    Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 20:09.
    • colmshan1990
      Member
      Since: Apr 2009

      Actually, the US has 50 states.
      Each state set their own taxes.
      Therefore, the US has (potentially) 50 different tax rates, not one.
      That said, the prices seen in stores (including the PSN) are tax free, because taxes are added to the price only at the point of purchase, and not before.
      I suppose it’ll make people better at arithmetic, if they’re constantly trying to figure out what the actual cost of an item they see on a shop shelf is…

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 20:34.
      • tonycawley
        Pint! Pint!
        Since: Feb 2009

        Well there we go, its a little more complicated than the article makes out, no?

        Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 21:47.
      • colmshan1990
        Member
        Since: Apr 2009

        As I said above though, there’s no tax which will convert $1 to €4.
        This explanation only really explains the 1:1 conversion rate SCEE are fond of.

        Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 21:57.
    • IAmJacksMedullaOblongata
      Member
      Since: Nov 2011

      You have missed the point (pint?) entirely. This is NOTHING to do with the difference in cost.

      US: Any PS3 user can avail of the offer.
      EU: You must be a PS+ subscriber.

      That’s the problem. That’s it. Nothing to do with exchange rates or sales tax. You’re right, they’re different. There are REASONS by game prices don’t look to line up. There is NO REASON why this promotion wasn’t offered to ALL PS3 users in Europe. No reason. Even PixelJunk fought for it!

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 21:58.
    • cc_star
      Team TSA: Writer
      Since: Forever

      Missed the point

      Comment posted on 10/05/2012 at 22:31.

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