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The Xbox One Restricts Pre-Owned Sales Through Disc Installs

Can you hear the retailers screaming?

Although they didn’t mention anything from their show stage, several reports are emerging that the old used game blockage story about Microsoft’s next gen console might be true enough, after all.

Wired was the first place we spotted it, then CVG and MCV (that one’s a “more to follow” at time of writing) have backed it up.

The Xbox One requires all games to be installed onto the system’s hard disc before playing. After which, you can seemingly remove the disc (so that 500GB hdd might need fattening up a bit fairly soon, too). The game is tied to the Xbox Live account that installed it and if it’s put into someone else’s machine and installed, it will require an additional fee before it can be played.

While this isn’t the worst-nightmare “Always on” scenario many feared, it isn’t far from it. This would severely restrict pre-owned sales and goes some way to explaining why EA might have dropped their online pass system a few days ago.

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49 Comments
  1. theturtleking
    Member
    Since: Feb 2010

    Very bad move. There goes 80% of their sales.

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:29.
  2. hazelam
    Member
    Since: Feb 2009

    ok, if true, not getting one.

    most of the new features they touted for the system will only be available in the us anyway, or locked behind a gold wall.

    Xbox None, i might as well call it.

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:31.
    • woodsy321
      Member
      Since: May 2010

      if true? they announced it….

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:49.
      • hazelam
        Member
        Since: Feb 2009

        oh.

        i hadn’t read the linked articles when i wrote that.
        now i still stand by most of what i wrote, just without the first three words.

        Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 20:19.
  3. bmg_123
    Member
    Since: Feb 2012

    *Pre-orders PS4* Well there’s my allegiance set.

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:32.
    • Kevling
      Member
      Since: Dec 2008

      In firmness, Sony haven’t said they won’t be doing this either. Of course, they haven’t said they will, but don’t rule it out just yet.

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 21:49.
      • Kevling
        Member
        Since: Dec 2008

        *fairness*

        Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 21:49.
  4. ico
    Member
    Since: Aug 2010

    I’ve seen both Sony and MS reveals now and currently own both but from what I’ve seen so far Camp Sony here I come. What with my Vita and all it’s a no brainer. Thought EA ditching Project Ten Dollar was bit to good to be true. Sony all the way for me! I think.

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:33.
  5. Jas-n
    Since: Aug 2008

    This does mean that that 500GB’s going to be eaten fast… roughly 20 games based on 25GB Discs.

    Also makes you wonder what’s the point in buying physical if it’s going to install everything anyway?

    I have a solution… why not have a game disc serial, when that’s inserted into the console, upload that to a server along with the console serial, you’re only storing <1MB of data rather than up to 50GB.

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:33.
    • a inferior race
      I'm special
      Since: Jul 2009

      Energy efficiency?

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:35.
    • p9ul
      Member
      Since: Sep 2009

      20 games might be optimistic – if it’s true that the starting point of next-gen games will be 1080p then how big are textures going to be – Killzone 3 took up 42gb of a BD50 and it wasn’t 1080p.

      Also doesn’t include how much of that 500gb will be reserved for the system – I’ve just whacked a 1TB drive into my PS3 and I’ve “only” got 828gb for myself – Top Gear maths says we might get around 400gb of a 500gb hdd to use ourselves – so 8 and a half Killzone 3’s….

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:52.
      • a inferior race
        I'm special
        Since: Jul 2009

        Downloads for games are generally smaller then their on disc counterparts. So we might need less than the full 42 GB per game.

        Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 20:01.
      • Jas-n
        Since: Aug 2008

        I was giving a best case on a 25GB game size with no patches or DLC :).

        Comment posted on 22/05/2013 at 13:31.
    • PoorPaddy89
      Member
      Since: Aug 2009

      It’s hard to say. Whilst X1 games will likely be larger in size than PS3, I’d say the average Blu-ray downloadable game is currently about 7gb. X1 will probably fit more than 20 games, though still not loads.

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 20:01.
      • E8_BALL_
        Member
        Since: Jul 2010

        Initial install, PLUS, numerous patches.

        Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 22:04.
  6. Takyu
    Member
    Since: Aug 2012

    Depending on price of the second system install fee, could this basically mean that two or more people could have a full game installed on their console for cheaper than buying a full game? e.g. Game is £40, second installation fee is £10, so technically two people would be able to play the full game for £25 (providing they are mates and the second person would give them some money back).

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:38.
    • hol
      Member
      Since: Oct 2009

      True but more than likely, the disc ID on the disc will identify 2 copies & shut the first off.

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:43.
    • stealthstu
      Member
      Since: Oct 2012

      I’m guessing you would still need the disc to start the game, like a lot of the PC games from a few years ago (not brought anything on PC in years so not sure what its like now). They will do that so as not to just install and sell on.

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:44.
  7. hazelam
    Member
    Since: Feb 2009

    i just had a thought.
    this will require some kind of online certification right?
    even if only at the install stage.
    so if you don’t have net access, or live is down, you’ve got to wait to play your games when you get it home.

    that’ll be popular. o_O

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:41.
    • E8_BALL_
      Member
      Since: Jul 2010

      User… “Xbox, play Halo.”
      Xbox… “Sorry, not today.”

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 22:08.
  8. DJ Judas
    Epic
    Since: Aug 2008

    If Xbox One wanting me to control my TV with gestures and voice while subjecting me to trending tabs that get placed before game tabs wasn’t enough, this just destroyed my interest in picking one up.

    Unless Sony really screw up on June 10th, they’ve already won, imo.

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:41.
  9. DarthSharkey
    Member
    Since: Feb 2009

    Xbox “trade yourself in”

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:43.
    • DarthSharkey
      Member
      Since: Feb 2009

      That quote was stolen from a friend!

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:47.
      • Foxhound_Solid
        Is a smart cookie.
        Since: Dec 2009

        That quote is legendary hahaha

        Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 20:01.
  10. Motalla
    Member
    Since: Dec 2011

    And I thought the XBOX I bought in 2003 was the first ONE…

    Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 19:45.
    • shields_t
      Member
      Since: Oct 2008

      My thoughts exactly, seems a rather odd choice of name.

      Comment posted on 21/05/2013 at 20:08.

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