12/08/15 at 22:00 #250338
Yeah fair point, I suppose a minute of YouTube at 1080p is like 50mb so episodes and films add up fast. I definitely need better internet to take advantage of these things, some days Sky can only manage enough for streaming radio and they’re our best option. We’re moving next month so fingers crossed for speed!
I’ve used Firefox a bit, seems to work just as well as before with the few extensions I have installed, but I’m using Edge a lot more now. I guess having a tablet means it’ll always work best, it definitely copes the best with rotation and touch inputs on my ram light wee jobbie so because of that, profile synching and notification integration I’ll probably carry on with it. The only thing it lacks is the option to change search provider when being lazy and using the address bar to search (stupid Bing, I want Google!) but that’s really minor, it’s otherwise excellent and very fast at basic browsing.15/08/15 at 12:31 #250516gazzagbModerator
Well I decided to buy some more RAM to boost my laptop up to 4GB, hopefully that will make it a bit more usable so when that arrives I’ll give it a go. I’ve registered for the download, so I just need to wait for that to become available.15/08/15 at 15:54 #250518
If you don’t want to wait for the normal Windows update program to offer you the upgrade, you can do it with the “media creation tool”.
You can download the upgrade and burn it onto a DVD (if you’re old fashioned) or a USB stick. It’s easiest just to download it and run it from your existing Windows installation. Just select the option to “upgrade this PC”. Don’t, whatever you do, try and do a clean install. You _must_ do an upgrade first. (Windows 10 handles activation differently. It’s tied to the hardware rather than the traditional key. Upgrading first registers the hardware with MS as licensed for Windows 10, and then you can do a clean install if you want, without having to enter any license key. Which is inevitably in the most awkward place when you want to type it in)15/08/15 at 19:37 #250522a inferior raceParticipant
I remember chrome not working on my windows 8 laptop correctly for a few months.16/08/15 at 00:00 #250523
I tried upgrading to Win 10 but when it restarted for the last time, after the log in screen, all I got was the wallpaper on the desktop flashing every second or two and couldn’t select anything.
At least the “load earlier version” works well.16/08/15 at 09:48 #250524
That’s a weird one. You got through the whole upgrade and then it went wrong? The most common problems seem to involve it failing in the first stage (copying files) or in the second stage (the 32%/6% thing).
If you want to give it another go (and you can be arsed waiting for the 3GB to download again), try all the tricks people have been suggesting. Unplug everything you don’t need until it’s installed. Possibly disable networking (actually disable all the network device adaptors in Windows, or unplug them all physically). Obviously do that _after_ the download, but before it starts installing.
And if you happen to have a handy supply of chickens/goats/virgins, you can probably work out what to do.16/08/15 at 14:59 #250536
Oh that’s a point, both of my upgrades happened offline and worked well!
Anyone having problems with Live Tiles in tablet mode? None of mine (News, Weather, Kindle, Explorer for YouTube, Calendar and Covers) show any live or preview info, not even in normal mode, though they did in Windows 8.1.16/08/15 at 15:05 #250537
Cheers for the advice, I will give it another go and see what happens.16/08/15 at 15:26 #250538
The other tip is to try doing it with the Media Creation Tool (which doesn’t necessarily have to actually create any media).
Of course, there are conflicting reports about doing it that way. Some people say it worked for them when the Windows Update method failed. And others say completely the opposite. At the very least, it seems to download quicker that way than with the Windows Update.21/08/15 at 22:23 #250943
Tried upgrading again via ‘Windows Update’ but it wouldn’t even start the update process so went the ‘Media Creation Tool’ route and it worked a treat.
Thanks for your help guys.21/08/15 at 23:31 #250945
Nice! What do you think so far? Also, with this media creation tool, can you make a fresh boot Windows 10 DVD and will that work with the freebie upgrade Windows key now showing on my System Properties?23/08/15 at 20:24 #250975
I’d have answered that earlier, but I was away and can’t be arsed typing more than 3 words on a phone ;)
The media creation tool can supposedly make a bootable DVD (or USB) to do a complete clean install of Windows 10.
And the clever bit (which is completely different to how previous versions worked) is your licence to use Windows 10 is tied to the hardware. Not any key. So in theory, you just create something bootable, install it from there, and once you’re online, you should automatically be licenced. No need to enter the key.
That’s also the reason you _can’t_ do a clean install straight away. You have to upgrade first (which then sees your earlier license key and registers the hardware with MS as being authorised to use Windows 10).
Main benefit is you don’t have to worry about finding a disc to reinstall from. Downside is how lenient they’ll be on hardware changes. Some changes should be fine, but replacing a motherboard might mean MS demanding you pay for Windows 10 again for your whole new PC.24/08/15 at 12:13 #251047
Thanks for explaining that mate, I remember reading about MS registering your hardware but it was explained badly. So since I originally bought Windows 7 Pro on disk for my media pc and upgraded to 10 Pro, do you think that if I went mad and did a clean install in say three years time I’ll just be able to pop the Windows 10 boot disk, wipe everything and end up with a properly activated version of Windows 10 Pro again, still free?24/08/15 at 14:00 #251067BigWelshMike (aka bunimomike)Participant
Not installing yet. Might see if I can hang in there for a PC upgrade (mobo, RAM, CPU, fans, case). Working from home (and for myself) has me prioritising my current set-up as it’s easily the best I’ve had so far. My workflow will take a bit of a kick to the giblets so it’s best I do it when I have a quiet week.24/08/15 at 22:13 #251131
Is it still a bit unclear?
Once you’ve got a license for Windows 10, you’re entitled to download it and do a clean install as many times as you want for the lifetime of that device. Until you buy a new PC, or change parts of the old one enough that MS claim you’ve got a whole new machine.
Obtaining the license involves either (a) buying it, (b) getting it with a new PC (or whatever) or (c) upgrading from 7 or 8 (and _only_ an upgrade works, you can’t do a complete clean install the first time).
Once you’re licensed and the hardware is registered with MS, you can install it as many times as you like, with no further cost. At some point in the future, your hardware may not be supported though. Not sure what happens in that case. You may find new features don’t appear. Or it might even stop working completely. But that’s long way off.
So yes, 3 years time, and you can reinstall it for free.
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