Sony Suffers Setback In Hacking Case

The case of ‘Sony vs. the World’ continues, but it seems that the electronics giant may have tried to push its luck too far. A few days ago it was reported that Sony was ramping up its attack on hackers and planning to subpoena Twitter, YouTube, and PayPal et al to gather information such as the IP address of anyone who had shown an interest in hacking the PS3.

US District Judge, the Honorable Susan Illston, has put that plan to rest though by denying the request. According to PSX-Scene a hearing on SCEA’s Motion is now scheduled on March 11.

Source: PSX-Scene via VG247



  1. I really hope Sony are successful with this. Getting ip addresses is just the start though, people will surely find a way around that. Brick the consoles of anyone found hacking? Harsh, but it’d send the right message out and stop people from doing it in the first place. Activision need to take a similar stance with cod, ban anyone who’s hacked from ever logging in to the cod matchmaking servers ever again.

    • Ban everyone from COD i say makes it easier ;)

      Surely if sony are found to brick consoles they will get in deep doggy doo doo.

    • Getting the IP addresses of anyone that’s actually /watched/ a YouTube vid on hacking? No, that’s simply ridiculous.

      • I agree – for a start it would mean pretty much all the TSA staff would be listed – obviously we’re not hackers but we’re covering the story.

      • Exactly, this one is a bit too much in my opinion. And clearly in the court’s too. Obviously I’m glad Sony are being so proactive, and I want them to win this war on hacking but they need to be methodical about it. Plus, there are programs out there that allow you to mask your IP address anyway so this wouldn’t really be effective in the long run.

      • Absolutely, that was way too heavy handed and it was right they were refused.

      • yeah but this is sony and their paranoia, who knows what lengths they will go to.

      • Extremely ridiculous idea, it’s a slippery slope. Sony should stick to their own network for finding and blocking hacked consoles.

      • It’s completely immoral and possibly going so far as making them seem like an completely evil corporation. Anyone remember the days when Sony were battling for consumer rights with Betamax?

        Funnily enough, I could see the hackers using some of the old Sony Betamax cases as precedent. I mean, the whole, just because something has illegal uses (in the case of Betamax, copying of movies/TV programmes) doesn’t mean that the product is illegal and remember EULAs aren’t law… Sony does not yet have the power to introduce laws…

        Not a hacker by the way, I would just like to keep as many of my rights as possible, anyone who is willing to give them away because they’re afraid of some random company being hurt, doesn’t deserve them.

      • Careful Sony; bolshy moves like this can really hurt PR, at a time when customer loyalty is of utmost importance.

      • There are a handful of hacking sites that are probably reasonably regularly visited by anyone who writes about gaming.

        There are relevant news stories there, and although TSA doesn’t provide a running commentary on hacking/security circumvention/piracy/homebrew, from to time there are major happenings with massive ramifications for everyone.

        These sites are also one of the only places you can read about court proceedings with Sony obviously keeping a low profile and these court proceedings will effect everyone as they will probably decide once and for all (in the US at least) whether you actually own the machine you buy or whether you only buy a right to use it in the way the manufacturer allows you to.

      • Just to echo what uhyve and others have said, theres a lot more at stake here than just hacking a games console, this is much more about our rights of ownership, which a lot of people seem all too eager to give away.. As for the hacking in general, I’m quite ambivalent on the subject to be honest. Every console has been hacked in the past and it never hurt any of them as far as I can see.. The gaming industry is still the biggest in the world, so I’m not going to cry for sony over this. Imo, they should just ban hacked consoles from PSN, like MS do on XBL and leave it at that. Throwing the law around just creates a streisand effect, so even more people find out about it.

  2. I watched a vid and looked at Geo’s site. And i’ve followed some links off Twitter. Have I hacked? No. Am I interested in what is going on? Yes. Same issues as the whole Wikileaks thing. A nonsense by Sony’s lawyers.

  3. thats taking it a bit far

  4. This makes the KB thing even funnier

    • LOL That would be funny if they bricked his console!

  5. I agree that Sony need to be pro-active about stopping the hackers, but what they tried to do is wrong. It would open the floodgates for everyone who has ever thought about doing some illegal being punished. The law states innocent until proven guilty, watching a vid or tweeting about something is not illegal. They should probably concentrate more on finding a way to trace those who log into the PSN with hacked consoles and ban them. If they want sue them too, but use what you have to get evidence first.

  6. I have an ‘interest’ in this as Sony put it, I follow Geohot on Twitter etc.

    I’m not interested in any way in hacking my PS3, but the story interests me. Would Sony be putting me on their list as a subversive user?

    Personally though I support their actions to minimise hacking of the PS3, I’m glad that they lost this round. I also tend to think that the genie is out of the bottle now and that they are fighting a battle they cannot win.

  7. Im sorry thats just wrong, i follow and have advertised a hacking group on facebook,

    NOT because i have an interest in hacking, but because i want to know what danger the games i play or my console faces before they are reported by sony ect weeks later.

    • when i say advertised i mean, i have brought it to the attention of the ps forumers, for them to keep upto date as i do (just to avoid confusion), oh but it was deleted

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