Team Meat On Piracy: “Sh@% Changed”

Remember Super Meat Boy?  The properly hardcore 2D platformer designed for properly hardcore players?  Well, the guys have spoken out about piracy, and it makes interesting reading.

The duo, made up of Edmund McMillen and Tommy Refenes, are remarkably open about the subject.  “If the game gets pirated heavily,” said McMillen, “if it’s a good game that people really like, they’re going to either buy it eventually or they’re going to tell other people about it. Either way it’s just going to come back to a sale.”

“The dinosaurs of marketing are really upset by piracy,” he continues. “They think it’s literally stealing.”

“They’re old. That’s really the reason. They’re old and their ideas are old. They don’t understand where we are now. They don’t understand the mentality of people who are pirating things. They see them as thieves, the same people who go and shoplift. I don’t f*@#ing shoplift but I have pirated sh@%-loads of stuff. Like it’s just not the same, it’s not the same thing at all.”

“They spend so much money trying to prevent it but they are wasting everyone’s time,” said partner Refenes. “They are damaging their own businesses. Those gamers who got screwed by DRM problems? I guarantee those people are going to think twice before they buy another game from that publisher.”

“Sh@% changed,” said McMillen. “Deal with it. Sh@% went digital and this is how it works now. It’s really easy to copy and give to other people.”

It’s an interesting thought process, but not one shared by most of the industry.  Any comments?

Source: IGN.


  1. What’s Shia Le Boeuf got to do with this?

  2. 98% of pirates won’t buy the game beacuse they already have a copy. And when they tell people about the game, the others will want the “free copy” aswell.

  3. As an aspiring games developer, if I release an indie game and make a profit on it, then I’ll be happy.
    Obviously piracy is an issue if everyone is doing it, but if people that aren’t going to buy the game anyway are now talking about it and enjoying it through piracy, then I’ll have the same attitude as Team Meat, knowing that my game is ‘out there’.
    I’ll be making games to make money, yes, but I’ll also be doing it because it’s what I enjoy.

    Now, if they pirate it and badmouth it? Then that’s a different story :)

    • Hahaha, i’m currently at a point in development where i’m wondering what I should write code for to prevent people from accessing things they shouldn’t, so this article came up quite coincidentally. Now I am just confused as to how I should handle it…

      • My own opinion is to not worry about it. Pirates will work around any DRM you add (like every other DRM that exists) and you’ll only annoy your legitimate customers and make them not want to buy your next piece of software (or whatever it is you’re developing).

  4. i don’t agree with everything he says, piracy is a problem, it’s just the industry does blow it totally out of proportion.
    “piracy funds terrorism and organised crime” they say, how does downloading a torrent off the net make anybody any money?

    he is right about one thing though, drm is not the answer.
    you’d think after a title like spore becomes the most pirated game because of it’s drm the publishers would learn.
    i know for a fact ubisoft haven’t learned, with their universally criticised always on drm.

    you know, i don’t know which is worse, drm systems like that, or piracy, both involve stealing somebody else’s property.

    so when a publisher like that suffers because of piracy, i find it hard to have any sympathy.

  5. Well its been a while since I’ve posted here, but this article got my attention. This is an important topic area for me too as I’m studying Games Development. Have I pirated a game? yes. Did I like the game and continue to play it and not buy it NO! I pirated Mass effect 1 a while back because I had played the demo but thought it was rather bad and a friend said “nah, the demo really is bad the actual game is far better. Try torrenting the full game and you’ll see just how amazing it is” so I downloaded the full game to play the first few missions to see if it was in fact any good. Needless to say the next day I was up bright an early for a trip into town and bought a copy of Mass effect and Mass effect 2 (for PC obviously). To this day its one of my favourite games and can’t wait for ME3.

  6. I agree – most bigwigs at publishing companies are old and their firmware is outdated.
    Too bad, God never issues updates. He just releases new hardware revisions.

  7. Piracy on any level is fork hunts. I buy music, film, games, clothes, food, all originals. Cant do with thieves. Its just not right/fair.

    • what? hunts for forks? ^_^

      if you don’t live in the uk you might not get that joke.

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