Peespee63 has been playing Tekken 6 and getting the hell beaten out of him, just like everyone else. Turns out fighting games are difficult. I had no idea. I’ve never broken a controller out of frustration at a fighting game. Possibly.
After playing it for another half hour, I have come to the conclusion that Tekken 6 is one of the most frustrating games in the history of gaming. It’s so bad that in comparison, you feel like you’re getting somewhere even when you do fail at Tetris (widely regarded as one of the Top 10 most frustrating games ever).
But it’s not the only frustrating game in the Beat-em-up genre: Street Fighter IV is notoriously difficult, but that’s OK, Street Fighter games have a reputation for being hard as a triple-brick wall reinforced from the back with steel-plated adamantium, but that’s no excuse for having a near-impossible final boss.
You expect a game to get harder as you progress, to challenge you and your skills, to force you out of your comfort zone and develop new techniques. And in most BEUs, it does this quite well, but there’s also a bit of a jump in the last boss’s difficulty. Fair enough.
But, in the case of SFIV, with Seth, even on the easiest mode, he’s nearly impossible to beat, and you have to resort to dirty tactics and button-mashing to get anywhere. It’s just wrong. Not only is he quick and powerful, he pulls out big flashy teleportation moves out of nowhere which you have 0.00000001ms to react to. How unfair is that? The jump is so high in difficulty, you’d swear you were playing on super-duper hard mode.
The same goes for Azazel in Tekken 6. He’s freaking huge, quick, powerful, pulls out massive moves you have no time to react to, and he teleports. How is this fair? I buy a game to enjoy it, not get annoyed at it, and quite frankly, I’m not enjoying Tekken 6.
And don’t get me started on the bogus silver trophy for beating a bonus character NANCY something. A massive robot with gattling guns, missiles and rocket fists, oh and a laser beam. It’s impossible to beat it, and you only get a silver trophy for doing so.
But, let’s not forget about the human element here: I cannot stand the saddos who learn every combo move for a character and only use exclusively that character. it’s stupid and pointless and at it’s core, cheating. You would play a fighting game to have a bit of fun, and you can’t have fun with opponents who outclass you with their memory. A true player is one who can set everything to random and still be good.
I hate it when a game is no longer enjoyable because of the difficulty level. It’s supposed to be challenging for everyone, not just hardcore gamers. It could be that I’m just grumbling because I’m not any good at beat ‘em ups, but I don’t remember the Tekkens before 5 being THAT difficult at the finale.
MF6465 | 26/12/2009 13:04
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Reminds me of how i felt playing wipeout on Elite, It just gets so annoying. Got the platnium now, but was it worth the countless hours of fustration?
online4ntagonist | 26/12/2009 13:13
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I just think you’re not any good at beat ‘em ups.
oMega-W | 26/12/2009 13:20
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Apologies in advance for sounding like a dick: I don’t have the patience or desire to learn countless combos and the best moves, so I don’t play beat-em ups. It’s not their fault you don’t either. Stick to Batman: Arkham Asylum next time.
bunimomike | 26/12/2009 13:24
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Top article and the exact reason why I gave up on Ninja Gaiden Sigma. I ended up resenting the entire game.
legalisemurder | 26/12/2009 13:32
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I thought tekken 6 was pretty easy.If you use moves that put azazel on his back he’s a walkover.It also helps if you set the round limit to 1.Nancy was tough but in the end i just spammed one of jacks basic kicks and dominated after about 3 hours of trying the devil jin method.
speaker5 | 27/12/2009 22:45
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Tekken 6 is an easy platinum.
morbo1993 | 26/12/2009 14:25
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With Azazel i agree, he is ridiculously hard, the only real way to beat him is either with luck or cowardly attacks. When it comes to the other part, about beating you with their memory, well that’s just bullshit… if you are a good player you memorize a good bunch of your favorite character’s attacks and then you have to time them and try to understand your opponent to be able to beat him… when a fight is only pure randomness it takes out a lot of the fun… sure when you’re with friends messing around it’s ok, but if you’re actually trying to win, like online for example it’s important and much more fun to know your character
oh and by the way… i hate “players” who repeat the same attack over and over again -.-
Roynaldo | 26/12/2009 14:33
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“oh and by the way… i hate “players” who repeat the same attack over and over again -.-”…. and then they have the bare faced cheek to turn around and say “Why dont you just block it then?”–
How about ” I F’ing cant you T**T, why dont you just stop F’ing cheating for a pathetic win!!!”
Grrrr.
Roynaldo | 26/12/2009 14:30
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I see your point, your obviously not that good at the beat em up genre, thats nothing to be ashamed of as there are countless people in the same boat.
I agree that playing with one character is a form of “cheating” but then there is the aspect of just practising to get better, we dont play games for them to be easy all the time.
However I myself am not a fan of most beat em ups for an entirely different set of reasons, there is no variety in your experience playing them, no fathomable storyline, hardly a well thought out character in sight. I like the complete opposite of all those points.
I could be good at beat em ups, I could practice and practice until im good with all characters but i dont want to, because its boring.
The upside of beat em ups is offline MP. Thats about it really.
Altir | 26/12/2009 14:52
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“I cannot stand the saddos who learn every combo move for a character and only use exclusively that character. it’s stupid and pointless and at it’s core, cheating.”
Learning to play the game is cheating? are you five years old?. Picking and learning a main character is not cheating any more then using the same loadout on CoD learning a moves list and bread and butter combos is the bare bascis of playing calling that cheating is laugthable and any credeblitly you may have had has been lost from this single ignorant statment.
“You would play a fighting game to have a bit of fun”
Who are you to define fun for other people? i doubt anyone plays a game for any reason other then their enjoyment.
“and you can’t have fun with opponents who outclass you with their memory. A true player is one who can set everything to random and still be good”
Basicly, you only have fun when your winning and not when your facing an opponent who forces you to try?
This entire article is basicly casual QQ, it looks like the kind of thing you expect to see in forum posts and youtube comments. Why choose fighting games to write about when you clearly have no understanding of how they are played by the fans?
Roynaldo | 26/12/2009 18:17
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1) Welcome to TSA
2) A very opinionative first comment there friend, I respect that.
3) Going straight down to the last paragraph “it looks like the kind of thing you expect to see in forum posts and youtube comments”— you have a point, but this is a guest writer article. Its not intended for this article to reach out to the % of the public, just to air an opinion and spark a little debate (which is where your forum comment becomes vaild).
4)Welcome to… oops, said that already.
So…do you have a passion for Beat em ups?
Altir | 26/12/2009 20:33
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Thanks for the welcome.
I have a passion yes, the ablitly….thats debatable but i certinly have the passion for it regardless.
jacklum | 27/12/2009 07:13
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I agree with Altir. I really don’t see how mastering one character can be considered cheating at all. There’s no way you’re going to be able to memorize all the moves/combos of every character (especially in Tekken), so if you have any aspirations of being good at the game, you have to narrow your focus and concentrate on one or two characters.
legalisemurder | 26/12/2009 15:28
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I don’t think learning your favourite characters moves and using him a lot is cheating.If you are winning without knowing the moves and combos that makes you a button basher/low kick merchant.I always use hwoarang not because he has the best,game winning moves but because he is a dude.
Dexter17 | 26/12/2009 15:29
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What is with all of the guest article criticism these days? There seems to be a lot more of it about.
Unless you are going to constructively criticise his writing, don’t criticise his opinion.
legalisemurder | 26/12/2009 15:49
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I thought this was a comment section on a gaming website.The article does refer to anyone who is good at beat em ups as a bunch of saddos.Some people might have a contrary opinion.Wouldn’t it be a a bit pointless not to mention boring if every time an article was posted the comment section was full of people agreeing with everything that was said.
oMega-W | 26/12/2009 16:58
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As a GW myself, I’d much rather someone disagreed with me than say my writing sucked. At least I know they’ve read it, thought about it, and felt inclined to say so. For me, that makes it a success.
legalisemurder | 26/12/2009 17:01
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Exactly.Isn’t that the point of opinion pieces like this?
Lord_Gremlin | 26/12/2009 21:43
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People don’t read before posting. He got some good points. First, different difficulties. If someone set game difficulty on easy or very easy, trophies should be disabled and game must become really easy. SF4 fails here. Another good points – having boss characters that require stupid strategy, like spamming 1 attack. It’s Nancy. Boss should be a culmination event, so it should require the most complex strategy of all.
C_S15 | 26/12/2009 22:03
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Random characters you don’t know too well = random button mashing. The epitome of skill and fun there….
seedaripper1973 | 27/12/2009 08:55
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Lei Wulong wants to say “hi”…
Now, no more disrespecting Tekken ,it is ‘The King of Iron Fist Tournament’ after all
I see nothing wrong with learning a particular character (it’s the ONLY way to beat seasoned veterans) but in all honesty, once you know the ‘basic’ set of moves, you can use all the characters anyway…
Just a quick question Gamoc, was you playing it on the 360?? (no fanboyism here) its just that i played soul caliber last night round a mates house on his 360, and i found it to be one of the most frustrating experiences EVER! (what the hell were microsoft thinking with that blinking D-pad????)
seedaripper1973 | 27/12/2009 08:58
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Ooops or Peespee63 for that matter….
speaker5 | 27/12/2009 22:41
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Button smashing