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Are Apple Trying To Hide Their Apology To Samsung?

They don't like the taste of humble (apple) pie.

The ongoing battle between Apple and pretty much everyone else continues to rumble on and not always in Apple’s favour. In July the behemoth lost a court case in which they accused the Samsung Galaxy Tab of copying the iPad design. As a result they were ordered to place prominent adverts detailing the judgement to “correct the damaging impression” that Samsung was a copycat product. They also had to place a statement on the U.K. version of the Apple website.

Apple complied with the ruling but could not resist taking a further dig at Samsung, “In a case tried in Germany regarding the same patent, the court found that Samsung engaged in unfair competition by copying the iPad design,” said the statement on their website, “A US jury also found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple’s design and utility patents, awarding over one billion U.S. dollars in damages to Apple Inc.”

Samsung rightfully complained and Judge Robin Jacob was less than pleased,  “I’m at a loss that a company such as Apple would do this. That is a plain breach of the order,” he said. Apple said it would take them fourteen days to amend the message but the tech savvy Judge gave them just two, saying “I would like to see the head of Apple [Tim Cook] make an affidavit setting out the technical difficulties which means Apple can’t put this on [their site].”

Complying with the ruling once more, Apple have now updated their website with new text but in a further twist a poster over on Reddit has found that they may be trying to hide the apology from view. A piece of code has been placed on the website so no matter what resolution screen is used the apology will always be out of view and you have to scroll down to see it.

The post on Reddit also includes a screenshot of the Apple website viewed on a  1440p monitor and the apology is nowhere to be seen. You can see the code in action for yourself, click on over to Apple.

Lawyers for Samsung have yet to comment on the placing of the new apology but expect further repercussions; it does seem that Apple are doing their very best to hide their apology to their rival.  The U.S. giant is more than happy for judgements to be enforced when they are in their favour but it apparently does not like the taste of their own medicine.

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28 Comments
  1. anthro
    Member
    Since: Apr 2011

    1: It’s not meant to be an apology, it’s meant to be a statement.

    2: Apple are, predictably, trying to wangle their way out of this; however the court never stated that the statement had to be obvious.

    3: I don’t expect Apple to be done over for this. They’ve carried out what the court specified. However if they do get done for contempt, I for one will laugh my arse off.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:01.
    • Tuffcub
      On the naughty step.
      Since: Dec 2008

      You are correct about it not being an apology, my bad, will fix.

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:11.
    • eye8have9you3
      Member
      Since: Aug 2009

      The whole reason the “On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to…” bit is there is because the previous link wasn’t obvious enough. Deliberately hiding it seems to go completely against that

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 15:51.
  2. MegaBonez
    Member
    Since: Jul 2009

    This is at the bottom of the UK page, with a link!

    On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to Samsung’s Galaxy tablet computers. That statement was inaccurate and did not comply with the order of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The correct statement is at Samsung/Apple UK judgement.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:04.
    • anthro
      Member
      Since: Apr 2011

      If you read the article again, it says:

      “A piece of code has been placed on the website so no matter what resolution screen is used the apology will always be out of view and you have to scroll down to see it.”

      So yes, it’s there, but not immediately visible.

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:05.
      • MegaBonez
        Member
        Since: Jul 2009

        Oh yeah, duh! Apologies for my blatant stupidy!

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:09.
  3. cc_star
    Team TSA: Writer
    Since: Forever

    Whilst the whole thing was slightly unusual anyway… Apple’s, firstly petulant actions then secondly slightly dodgy actions have ensured that every news organisation has picked up the story and its been brought to many more people’s attention that just the normal tech bubble.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:07.
  4. psychobudgie
    Member
    Since: Nov 2009

    It would be nice to see the Hipster loving, tax dodging, patent trolling, drm pushing, cult that is Apple get a taste of it’s own medicine for a change. Won’t happen though, they, like most huge corporations, have enough lawyers to worm their way out of it.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:25.
  5. XisTG
    Member
    Since: May 2010

    I fail to see the problem here.
    I’m on a 27 inch iMac and on both the UK’s and Portugal’s Apple page, everything below those 4 menus is only visible by scrolling. The difference is that on the Portuguese page there is no statement. And the statement is presented in a bigger font size than I would have though off, so unless the court order states that it must be the first thing to be read on the page, I don’t see what’s wrong.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:41.
    • Alex C
      One for all.
      Since: Forever

      The Internet.

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:44.
      • XisTG
        Member
        Since: May 2010

        :)

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:45.
      • Tuffcub
        On the naughty step.
        Since: Dec 2008

        Fanboy.

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:50.
      • XisTG
        Member
        Since: May 2010

        Yes, I could tell that from the article.

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:51.
    • Tuffcub
      On the naughty step.
      Since: Dec 2008

      It’s a UK ruling and only applies to the UK Site.

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:49.
      • XisTG
        Member
        Since: May 2010

        commentes above; although the statement says it applies to all Europe.

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:52.
      • eye8have9you3
        Member
        Since: Aug 2009

        With patent law in Europe, once a ruling is made in one country it stands for all of europe, and no further legal action can be made in other countries. This is to stop patent trolls clogging up all the judicial systems in each country. I think the case which starts first takes precedent, so the German decision that Apple mentioned in it’s first statement is effectively overruled by this one, because it started later. However the english judge only has power to give court publicity orders for the UK, so the message only needs to be published on the uk site. Euro law is a mess…

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 15:46.
  6. deadwelsh
    Member
    Since: Jun 2009

    ”I’m at a loss that a company such as Apple would do this…”

    I am not, they were dicks in the past too…

    They named a product after some scientist, and when he asked them to remove it they basically publically insulted him, although i cant remember his name and am struggling to find a link, pretty childish for the worlds richest company.

    Being the bully boys doesnt help their casue with me either, and i was pleased as punch to hear the cant sell their trademark phone in Mexico as it infringes on the pre established Ifone LOL
    http://dawn.com/2012/11/05/apples-iphone-loses-name-battle-with-mexicos-ifone/
    :)

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:42.
    • Forrest_01
      Member
      Since: Jun 2009

      Was the scientist Dr. iPad? ;)

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 15:41.
  7. bunimomike
    Member
    Since: Jul 2009

    Apple are being silly buggers but I reckon most companies would want to tuck such an apology/statement out of the where if at all possible. Thing is, you should never take the piss with the court ruling as this may well have ramifications that Apple truly might not like.

    1920 x 1200 here and the statement is still neatly tucked away. I noticed the image of the iPad increasing so it takes up the “right” amount of room. Cunning buggers. :-)

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 14:53.
  8. Dazbobaby
    Member
    Since: Aug 2010

    Quote from Apple:

    Samsung / Apple UK judgment

    On 9 July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic (UK) Limited’s Galaxy Tablet Computers, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple’s Community registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of
    the High Court is available from http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html.

    That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal of England and Wales on 18 October 2012. A copy of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is available from http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html. There is no injunction in respect of the Community registered design in force anywhere in Europe.

    Image of Apple.com/uk
    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74818017/apple.com-uk.png

    They’re not hiding anything, but then again I don’t see an apology.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 15:20.
    • Tuffcub
      On the naughty step.
      Since: Dec 2008

      “They’re not hiding anything, but then again I don’t see an apology.”

      So if you cannot see something you should be able to see it could, perhaps, be classed as ‘hidden’?

      Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 16:58.
      • Dazbobaby
        Member
        Since: Aug 2010

        It’s not hidden, it’s just plain missing
        Found in their code:


        On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to Samsung’s Galaxy tablet computers. That statement was inaccurate and did not comply with the order of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The correct statement is at Samsung/Apple UK judgement.

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 19:07.
      • Dazbobaby
        Member
        Since: Aug 2010

        ok, that didn’t work.

        Look at the source of apple.com/uk and at the bottom, there’s a remark:
        SoSuMi

        Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 19:11.
  9. KeRaSh
    Member
    Since: Nov 2009

    Apple being childish. Hardly unexpected.

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 18:43.
  10. plutoniumdragon
    Member
    Since: Dec 2008

    Firefox+NoScript, (my default browsing mode) in full screen mode on a 1080p monitor shows the entire statement, without scrolling. Just saying.
    No exactly the way the majority of visitors to their site though would view it though is it?

    Comment posted on 05/11/2012 at 23:12.

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