Microsoft Confirms Daily Internet Check, Publishers Decide On Pre-Owned Fees

Microsoft has sensibly decided to issue a FAQ, a series of bullet-pointed info snippets, in order to attempt to clarify the recent PR bumbles that came forth after the Xbox One was revealed a couple of weeks back. On their own official news blog, they’ve made three new sections which detail most of the issues potential customers were having.

“Because every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection,” says one section talking about the Xbox One’s ability to tap into ‘the cloud’, “developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you’re not playing.”

It mentions that you’ll need to install (and sign into Xbox Live) before playing a game. “After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud.”

1.5Mbps broadband needed

Xbox One needs to be online once every 24 hours or games won’t work

It’s up to publishers whether or not they charge a fee to sell on a game

You won’t be able to rent or loan games at launch

“So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.”

The posts mention “a broadband connection of 1.5Mbps” which shouldn’t trouble most users (although their statement that the average is 3Mbps means very little).

The important bit is the requirement for the system to ‘check in’ every 24 hours. “While a persistent connection is not required,” the post states, “Xbox One is designed to verify if system, application or game updates are needed and to see if you have acquired new games, or resold, traded in, or given your game to a friend.”

“Games that are designed to take advantage of the cloud may require a connection.”

“With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.”

And on pre-owned: “Some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit,” say Microsoft. “We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.”

That’s nice, but it doesn’t stop publishers charging. “Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers,” it says, but “third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers.”

“In addition,” it adds, “third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.”

Crikey.

Some are expecting Sony to offer a similar method to publishers with the PS4.

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86 Comments

  1. I can understand if this is was the case when not using the disc but I can’t understand why it would have to connect every 24 hours with the disc in the draw.

    • because you don’t have to have the disc in any more.

      that’s the reason they went with mandatory installs i reckon.
      to justify this drm, and their into preowned stance.

      • that should have said anti, not into.

      • Yeah I understand that, but my point is that IF you put the disc into your machine which already has the license to play it then it shouldn’t have to connect to the internet because you would have the physical disc.

        And by the sounds of it I think it’s more the publishers that made them have this stance on preowned, I’m sure EA threw them loads of deals and that’s how they got the timed exclusive on all future CoD’s from Acti’.

      • Having the physical disc should be enough evidence that you still own the game, at least until you next connect to the internet.

  2. Wow. Guess it’s Sonys move now. The XBone can do one as far as I’m concerened. 24 hr interenet check in is a real killer.

    Why should I pay Microsoft a premium for having to jump though all these hoops when my PC can do it all cheaper and faster?

    I never thought I’d see the day when PC gaming involved less hassle than console gaming. In fact, I didn’t think such a thing was even possible. But microsoft have pulled it off. I don’t know if I should laugh or cry really.

    • I completely agree, I actually really like the other stuff that was in the Xbox Wire article but 24 hr check in is bull shit.

      I always stayed away from PC gaming as I just thought it was easier on console, not so sure any more.

  3. I do mainly buy new games, but I’ve made mistakes in the past. I’ve bought games on impulse that have ended up not being my cup of tea, but thankfully I have always been able to trade or sell them on ebay or to a friend.
    I guess if I was ever to buy an Xbox one, I would be a lot more picky over the games I buy.
    Also, I don’t buy every single game when they are released. There have been many times when I have searched for older games that I missed when they were first released, often obscure and not big selling games. Most of the time it has meant buying them second hand either from a shop or from ebay.
    I see this as a big issue for the Xbox one, in years to come, trying to find actual physical copies of older games could be near impossible.
    Another point I’d like to see cleared up, with every game having to be installed/registered, people are going to run out of storage space very quickly.
    So, if you have to uninstall/unregister a game to make space for a new game, does the Xbox then assume you no longer own that game and remove the permission to play it?
    Theres no other way to describe the Xbox one other than it is a complete and utter mess!

  4. People complain about backwards compatibility, but image how they will complain when the XBone servers are switched off for XBone 2:

    Gamer: “I can’t play my XBone games no more??!!!!!!”

    Microsoft: “Sorry, but we no longer support any XBone games….please buy XBone 2….have a nice day….”

    Gamer: “But I bought all those games!!!!!”

    Microsoft: “Sorry, but the small print on the licence states that you agree that Microsoft or any partners may withdraw services at any point that they deem to be in need of more of your money….please buy an XBone 2 to continue to enjoy our wonderful services….have a nice day…..”

    • I think that’s a bit biased. as that’s the case with any downloaded game, on Xbox or Playstation.
      Also look how long it took them to turn off the servers for the original Xbox, I doubt they’ll be doing that for a long time after the XBO’s life cycle has finished.

      P.S Alex I thought you were going to filter people saying “Xbone”!

  5. Sod them both, in going to use the money to build a pc. Im sure any exclusive games will find there way to pc either port or pirated. At least that will do as i command it. I don’t care if consoles die after this gen, putting the likes of EA in charge of how consoles operate is a joke and it started going down hill when non-exclusive games got exclusive content or early releases.

  6. I spoke about all these restrictions and fees with my dad earlier on this evening. He has never been a gamer, he’s familiar with Xbox, PlayStation etc, but he’s never been that bothered about playing. I figured it would be interesting to see what the ‘average joe’ thought about all this, and whether it was just us gamers getting our knickers in a twist.

    The first thing he said was, “Are Microsoft stupid?”

    Says it all in my opinion. And I answered with “Yes they are.”

    As many on here have already mentioned, it will be very interesting to see how many new Xboxes are brought back to stores in the New Year by angry parents who demand their money back as due to them moving house/unreliable internet connection etc, their child suddenly can’t play any of their brand new games that they unwrapped on Christmas morning to go with their shiny new console, which has now effectively become a very expensive, power hungry paperweight.

    Microsoft are idiots for doing this, and if Sony implement the same, then they also are idiots. If they don’t, they will reap the rewards and the Xbox will struggle to even make a dent in the market.

    I actually wonder if Microsoft even predicted the backlash that has arisen from them implementing these downright laughable restrictions? Seems to me that they were taken aback by all the negativity.

    Anywho, Xbox One – not a chance. PS4 – maybe, depending on what Sony announce.

  7. I can understand that MS see the market in second hand games and think “it would be nice to get a piece of that action” but they don’t seem to have thought it through. While many gamers are okay with spending £45 buying the big annual COD/FIFA blockbusters that they’re going to get hundreds of hours out of, there are lots of other games that only get bought at full price because people know that they can spend a couple of weeks doing their 6 or 10 hour playthrough and then get £30 back selling it on. If they can’t do that or can only trade it in at “participating retailers” (not sure what the EU competition commission will make of that restriction), that will only give them say £15 or £20 off a new title, they just won’t buy in the first place. The “new” market for games like that will just disappear.
    If I was Sony, I’d be going through the PS4 right now and ripping out any second hand control mechanisms and then put “the games are yours, do what the hell you like with them” front and centre of my E3 presentation. Actually, maybe second, just behind “we won’t put stupid SingStar icons on your XMB”. If MS run with this and Sony don’t then X1 is dead in the water.

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