Capcom: PS4 In ’2-3 Years’
David Reeves speaks out.
Published: 15:00, 29/06/2010 by Michael.
41Speaking to GamesIndustry, Capcom’s European COO David Reeves says he thinks the industry could see the next generation of consoles – the PS4 and the Xbox 3 – in two to three years. The man, who was responsible for the PlayStation Launch in Europe suggested that “all the first-parties have got to be working on something.”
“That’s the problem. You can be waiting a few extra months to implement something, but you’ve got to set a date to go with a certain chip at a certain point otherwise you’re going to miss the key milestones.”
Reeves also confirmed that Capcom will be working on both Kinect and Move titles, as well as embracing 3D. “We’re working with Microsoft and with Sony on both sides,” he said, “and trying to match up the IPs we have with what the first-parties want.”
“It’s not a forced fit. In some ways it’s quite a natural way of progressing. Capcom is definitely going to embrace it and just as the first-parties are doing, we see it as another blip before we come into the next cycle. 3D gaming is the same. Anything they can add to revive and pique interest in the games until we have another clash of the titans in two years time.”
Via GamesIndustry.
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29/06/2010 at 15:05
Member since: Aug 2008
I imagine we will hear first reliable rumours of development on next gen consoles in about that time. Actual release I can’t see before 2014 at the earliest UNLESS Nintendo decide to take all that Wii money and get a massive jump on the big boys and do a proper console in the next 4 or so years.
That’d be kinda cool actually
29/06/2010 at 15:41
Member since: May 2010
I Agree, the PS3 is only just starting to make profit from the units, weigh that up of the profits from the ps2 and life cycle and its gonna be a good while unless they are forced into it. The games devlopment will be Crazy costs on the new machines too….
29/06/2010 at 16:30
Member since: Feb 2009
But sony and ms are both going to be trying to get their next gen console out considerably sooner than the competitions. Look at the massive advantage ms have had this generation purely because the 360 hit the shelter so much sooner than the ps3. If sony can get ps4 out before xbox3 they’ll gain a similar advantage. This will push both consoles out sooner than we might naturally have seen them.
29/06/2010 at 15:06
Member since: Aug 2009
Surely, by the marketing it would be Xbox 4 though (since a 360 already has a 3 in the name)? Or rather Xbox 7.
29/06/2010 at 15:15
Member since: Jul 2009
All pedantry aside, he’s probably spot on. I’d be up for a new Playstation in 2013. Also, anything that’s worked well this general (maybe 3D, maybe motion-based) will hopefully see it’s way into a PS4 as standard.
29/06/2010 at 15:55
Member since: Aug 2008
Id like a PS4 in 2013/2014 as well. I got my PS3 on launch day, so ill be ready for one, some people are only just getting on?!? So 2013 maybe to early. but then, i guess we would just cross over like the PS2 to PS3.
29/06/2010 at 15:42
Member since: May 2010
I thought it was the “720″ , hell, when im a grandpa, the numbers will be huge!
29/06/2010 at 16:02
Member since: Aug 2008
People just say that cos it’s the next complete rotation, which is arbitrary and makes no sense! The whole marketing angle was that the Xbox 360 is a revolution, plus obviously they were avoiding just XBOX 2 in case stupid people thought it was inferior to the Playstation 3 cos it has a lower number!
I’m sure they will just come up with something totally different, like just a name.
29/06/2010 at 17:38
Member since: Aug 2009
i’s gonna be called Xboxity :-D
29/06/2010 at 21:47
Member since: Forever
or ‘X-it’!
29/06/2010 at 23:06
Member since: Nov 2009
@ 3shirts
when you travel 360 degrees you are back where you started…..
30/06/2010 at 00:41
Member since: Jun 2010
@ Zoidberg
Think it’s meant to mean that 360 is a turn around, as if you go around 360 degrees your doing a complete turn around, so i think Microsoft’s message is that the Xbox 360 is, well…. a complete turn around.
01/07/2010 at 07:45
Member since: Feb 2009
Crapbox3shitty? :-)
29/06/2010 at 15:14
Member since: Jan 2009
I agree with 3shirts, we won’t even know what these consoles will be called or look like until around 2014.
29/06/2010 at 15:23
Member since: Feb 2009
I think we’ll see something from one of them at E3 2012 even if’s not playable, especially if motion control doesn’t take off for either of them.
2011 will be the PSP2, probably 2012 for the next xbox and 2013 for the ps4. Not sure where Nintendo will fit in to it, probably 2011/2.
29/06/2010 at 15:20
Member since: Feb 2009
2-3 years? Could we see Sony as with the ps2, ps3 and ps4 on the market at the same time?
An announcement in 2 years would be when the ps3 was coming up to it’s 6th birthday. May a release around the time of it’s 7th birthday. Not a stupid idea, that would put it about November 2013; 2014 in Europe. I can see that happening.
I guess it will depend on how Move/Kinect do and if 3D TV’s come down in price quickly enough. If in 2-3 years there aren’t a few 3DTV’s that are £500 or under then Sony will want to hold out a little longer. They will want 3DTV’s very common place by the time we hit the ps4.
29/06/2010 at 15:34
Member since: Jul 2009
I wonder how low a quantity Sony can crank out the PS2 without making a loss? There’ll be some serious drop-off over the coming six months.
29/06/2010 at 15:27
Member since: Jun 2010
His point about missing the key milestones makes sense…
29/06/2010 at 15:31
Member since: Jun 2010
On the other hand I’m guessing they’ll want to make a decent profit before throwing a new console into the market. Having a PS3 and PS4 on the market at the same time already doesn’t seem very likely to me.
29/06/2010 at 15:50
Member since: Oct 2008
As unlikely as having a PS2 and PS3 on the market at the same time?
29/06/2010 at 15:56
Member since: Jun 2010
The PS2 was outdated compared to the competition from the xbox but also compared to PC gaming at the time. The situation is different now imo.
29/06/2010 at 15:41
Member since: Sep 2009
I hope they don’t, I’d rather they waited a bit longer, I don’t think technology has moved on enough to justify it in any meaningful way yet – both consoles continue to have new features added through firmware and new peripherals to expand the user experience, and both (but especially the PS3) continue to have their power tapped to improve graphics quality and performance year on year.
I always thought the PS3 was released too early as a knee-jerk reaction to the 360 release (and also competition from HD-DVD), even though graphically amazing games (for that generation) such as God of War 2 were still due to be released on PS2, and the sales of PS2 consoles even today prove that Sony could have waited a bit longer to iron out the initial issues with the PS3 (price, lack of DS3, lack of launch games, lack of XMB feature we take for granted like background downloading, in-game XMB, trophies etc).
Likewise the 360 was also rushed (RROD, lack of HDD and HDMI on all models, no high-capacity optical media support) in order to get the jump on the PS3 – and we all know how crucial that is to Microsoft’s PR double-speak. Only now with the 360Slim does Aaron Greenburg admit it’s the 360 they always wanted to make – so why didn’t they wait an extra year and make it in the first place?
A lot of things have changed since the last generation of consoles, firstly there is no clear winner or clear loser and both HD consoles have an equal and profitable (and growing) market share, and secondly the Wii has made graphics a secondary factor in justifying hardware sales. With the launches of Kinect and Move there is no need for either Sony or Microsoft to play their next-gen card yet, they just have to sit nervously watching each other waiting for one to make the draw first – if anything is going to bring the next-gen around too early it’s the need to be first to market…
Unless there is some major technological shift in the next couple of years I think they should wait until nearer 2015 when hopefully we all have super-fast broadband and 3DTV’s (and who knows what else!) are commonplace…
30/06/2010 at 00:39
Member since: Forever
Absolutely bang on there matey boy! I couldn’t of said it better myself, so therefore i shant.
30/06/2010 at 13:16
Member since: Jul 2009
Leaving the PS3 release any longer (i.e. another 6 months) may have lost Sony the BluRay vs DVD-HD war as it was quite touch and go for a while. They needed to win this, it was crucial. If they had of lost, PS3 would of been in serious trouble from the off.
Next gen, ok, I don’t really think Sony want to beat M$ out of the blocks, my guess is that they’d want to release within 3 months of M$ as I suspect many gamers would be more than happy to wait, also, releasing at this point rather than say 6 months before M$ would allow for a small jump in specifications.
As for when PS4 will arrive, I’m guessing Nov 2013 / March 2014 but you can be sure as Shit that SONY R&D are hard at work drawing up plans.
29/06/2010 at 16:08
Member since: May 2009
Given Sony’s position they need to look at this from a cold buisness point-a-view. They cannot afford to be late to the party with the PS4 as they were with the PS3 – it damaged them immensely as people upgraded from PS2 to 360. They also need to release at a VERY competative price point as they face more fators comitting people to stay with their current console manufacturer of choice with this upgrade than they did when designing the PS3. The advent of achievements, downloadable content and games and online profiles will undoubtedly mean changing console manufacturer will be a tough decision for many gamers.
Sony need to get the PS4 out there early, well before MS. Its a gamble but one which they need to make to dominate the market. They also need to learn from Nintendo and produce a console at a lower price point, perhaps without much extra procesing power to the PS3, just with alot more RAM and a more modern GPU allowing them to hit retail with a low asking price compared to MS. Design a brilliant OS and get PS1, 2 and 3 backwards compatability in there as well (it will encourage people with large retro game libraroies to upgrade). They then need to stop supporting the PS2 (and PSP if a PSP2 is out by then) to focus energy and recources on the PS4. They should stop supporting the PS3 on its 10th birthday and focus on making tyhe PS4 amazing. Also, they need to release an operating system and network infastructure that is significantly better than PSN/Live and come up with ways of glueing gamers to Sony consoles using Trophy support etc…
Not a big ask at all then ;-)
29/06/2010 at 16:29
Member since: Dec 2008
The question is, what could a PS4 do that a PS3 can not? It wont be able to do better than 7.1 Dolby surround sound and it wont be able to do better than Blu Ray movies. Motion control, Augented reality games and 3D? Already got it. There would be a small improvement in grahics, how may polygons it can fling around, but it wont be able to output better than 1080p as thast the limit of everyones HD TVs.
At present there is no reason for the PS4 until the next ‘big thing’ comes along, and a the PS3 has proved with 3D and motion control, you dont need to buy a new console just to get new features.
29/06/2010 at 16:33
Member since: Jul 2009
We’re struggling for 720p 60fps (let alone 1080fps) so I’d love to think we’d max out our HDTV sets with the next one. God knows, if 3D takes off, we’ll need more horsepower regardless.
However, like I mentioned above, no great rush. I think Sony will have a basic idea of everything going into the PS4 but will leave some flexibility seeing as 3D is just launching now.
29/06/2010 at 16:37
Member since: Jul 2009
Sorry. I meant 1080p 60 frame/second.
29/06/2010 at 16:39
Member since: Dec 2008
No one is going to buy a new console to get and extra 30fps – that is the only advantage a PS would have, and as the PS2 has proven (and equally the PS3) as developers get to grips with the beast they can get more and more out of the hardware. You couldnt imagine anything like GOW2 being a launch title for PS2
29/06/2010 at 17:15
Member since: Sep 2009
That’s how I feel about it Tuffcub, I just don’t see the need for the next-gen to start yet. I think we’re probably going to end up with an iPhone style model for consoles sooner or later (we’re halfway there now with the different HDD sizes and slim versions etc), with various hardware tweaks and improvements every few years but essentially the same console that can play the same games (bit like how you can play PC games on crap PC’s and top-end PC’s)…
They could release a PS4 that was basically a PS3 but with improved OS/XMB, more fully-integrated features (Trophies/Home/Move), faster blu-ray drive (so no installs needed), wireless N, improved graphics chip (for 1080p/60 as standard), more memory, larger HDD etc. It wouldn’t be a ground up rebuild so wouldn’t need anywhere near the same amount of investment or high price tag…
Now both consoles have become more service-based there is no need (or demand) to reinvent the wheel – people will still want trophies, they will still want Home, they will still want the PSN Store, they will still want Minis, they will still want their digital and disc content to be backwards compatible, they will still want the same PSN ID, they will still want iPlayer, PSPlus, Video, Music, Photos, VidZone, Blu-ray and all the other things the PS3 already offers… It is no longer as simple as going back to the drawing board and starting again.
29/06/2010 at 16:33
Member since: Aug 2009
I some how dont think so … many starting to develop or make games, but not on the market
29/06/2010 at 16:35
Member since: Jul 2009
im not ready for the next gen yet. still have a mountain of ps3 games to finish, and a mountain of ps3 games to purchase and finish. Ive given up buying games 1st day. from now on im purchasing a month or two later when they appear in the inevitable sale! apart from gran turismo 5, the new COD, the new assassins creed, on second thoughts! lol
29/06/2010 at 18:55
Member since: Aug 2008
I’m with you. I hit hard times at the beginning of the year and am only just recovering. I haven’t bought Read Dead Redemption, ModNation Racers, Split Second, Green Day Rock Band or even the likes of Joe Danger because I cannot afford it. I am working my way through now with the help of a LoveFilm subscription but I have come to realise just what a massive saving it is to wait, even just a week or so to pick up a copy on eBay