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PS4's Mandatory Installs Won't Eat Up Your Hard Drive - It's Just Cache Space

And you won't need that PS4 camera for voice commands.

Those worried about needing a bigger hard drive after it was revealed that Call of Duty: Ghosts would need 50GB of space on the hard drive, and Knack would need 37GB shouldn’t worry – while it needs that space, it won’t take it up, simply caching the install instead.

That means as you play, it will install and delete data, saving you a lengthy install time and valuable hard drive space. Essentially then, you’ll have at least 400GB of space on your hard drive to do what you want with.

 

This makes a lot of sense, actually – it’s a smart way for the PS4 to do things, and the box sleeves saying that X space is required are still true – it doesn’t say anywhere that it will use up that space.

So, we can all breathe a sigh of relief now, and try to ride out November while we wait for the PS4 to arrive.

Another interesting tidbit of information is that the PS Camera isn’t actually required for voice commands – you’ll be able to shout into your mic attached to the DualShock 4 instead.

Source: Gamepur

UPDATE: This has been confirmed in the official PS4 FAQ.

When playing disc-based games on PS4, do I need to install data to the hard drive?

Yes, all PS4 Blu-ray Disc games must be cached to the hard drive to ensure a smooth gaming experience. However, certain titles may not require you to wait for the game data to be fully cached before starting gameplay. In order to start playing disc-based games, users will need to insert the game disc into PS4 just like on the PS3 system.

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26 Comments
  1. bmg_123
    Member
    Since: Feb 2012

    Thank goodness for that. Can’t wait to get my PS4 next year!

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:20.
  2. irish-sid
    Banned
    Since: Feb 2013

    This comment is hidden.

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:22.
  3. Gareth Chadwick
    Member
    Since: Forever

    The dual shock 4 has a mic on it?

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:27.
    • InNodWeTrust
      Member
      Since: Oct 2013

      Yup, It has a mic and a speak on top just below the touchpad. Played with the Playroom last weekend here in the UK and the system worked really well, the speakers on the controller are a bit like the ones on the Nintendo Wii controllers but better quality.

      Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:35.
      • Gareth Chadwick
        Member
        Since: Forever

        I knew about the speakers but not the mic. Pretty cool.

        Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 20:36.
  4. Starman
    Member
    Since: Jul 2011

    Doesn’t that mean it’ll be regularly reading from the disc drive though? I’d rather it fully install and save on wearing out the drive.

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:32.
    • double-o-dave
      Member
      Since: Nov 2008

      Don’t most games unless you download a digital copy?

      Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:38.
      • Starman
        Member
        Since: Jul 2011

        On 360 when a games installed it only reads the disc when it loads up.

        Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:45.
      • cc_star
        Team TSA: Writer
        Since: Forever

        On PS3 games without an install yes, but most games don’t dump 50GB of data every time you play them.

        360 just spins the disc to verify ownership, then runs off the HDD

        Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 12:04.
    • blarty
      Member
      Since: Apr 2011

      It depends on when the cache is ‘cleared’ if it’s when you put another bluray in the drive then if you’re playing a game for a few days or weeks then the cache probably won’t clear, or it may be that the game loads frequently used assets into cache as the game loads.

      Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:52.
  5. djdustb
    Member
    Since: Nov 2008

    Finally some good news!

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:35.
  6. Blastiel
    Member
    Since: Nov 2011

    How is this a good thing?

    Caching 50GB constantly to and from the HD/BR is going to trash both of them surely?

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:39.
    • ohmikkie
      Member
      Since: Nov 2011

      Reading or writing does not contribute to harddrive wear & tear. Its more like like to be seeking (i.e. the arm moving) which causes it. So whether reading or writing wear and tear is determined by usage.

      Compared how a desktop OS uses disks it should be a lot less.

      Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 12:42.
    • cam the man
      Member
      Since: May 2009

      When your PC is on it’s constantly (just about) reading/writing from/to the HDD and they last for donkeys of years, unless your unlucky.

      Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 14:36.
  7. Eldaveo
    Member
    Since: Oct 2013

    As people have already said, I’m not sure this is actually a good thing. Can see hardware failure rates being pretty high using this approach.
    Hopefully with these new consoles we are given the choice to either install the game entirely to the HDD or use this cache method.

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:50.
  8. Bilbo_bobbins
    Member
    Since: Jun 2009

    cool news about the voice commands using the DS4. Thats nifty actually.

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 11:58.
  9. cc_star
    Team TSA: Writer
    Since: Forever

    Jesus Christ that’s awful

    Going to be fucking your BD drive & HDD transferring that much data every single time you insert a disc

    Very worrying!

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 12:01.
    • KeRaSh
      Member
      Since: Nov 2009

      According to GAF it was a miscommunication. It’s basically a background installation that works like the feature where you can play the game after downloading only the first part of it.
      @yosp tweeted the following:

      “you can pick which game data to delete, you want to keep the data on HDD while you play the game often”

      This sounds like it’s basically the same as PS3 game data except that it’s the whole disc. This time around you can delete it without having to fear for waiting times in case you suddenly want to play a game again since it’s a background process but it’s not a good idea to do this every time between gaming sessions for obvious HDD / BD strain.

      Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 12:15.
      • cc_star
        Team TSA: Writer
        Since: Forever

        That’s a relief then, from this article it sounded like a nightmare.

        Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 17:33.
  10. DJ Judas
    Epic
    Since: Aug 2008

    Good to have it conformed finally, I thought this was the case but there seemed to be a lot of confusion around the issue.

    Comment posted on 30/10/2013 at 12:02.

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