MS: Hardcore Will Buy Kinect First

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In an interview with CVG, worldwide product marketing manager for XBox, Ryan Moore, has said that hardcore gamers (he means you) will be the early adopters of the technology.

“I think we know that hardcore gamers will be the first to go out and buy it, as they are with any product.” said Moore.

He then gives the most convincing argument ever why hardcore gamers should buy in to the new tech.

“We know we have to have a wide range of experiences, from things like the animals game you saw today to… to… games that are more geared towards the core.”

It appears that the worldwide product marketing manager for XBox has trouble naming any hardcore titles for his new product which you hardcore gamers are going to buy.

Source: CVG

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66 Comments

  1. Give it up mate, EVERYONE knos this is for the casual market.

  2. I think this is why the price is quite high. They know that the MS fanboys/’hardcore’ gamers will run out and get it straight away, then after a few months, it will get a price reduction for the more ‘casual’ gamer.

    • That’s why I’ve never got a 360. This willy-waving contest they into just highlights how they can shut the fuck up. (excuse the french)

      • Your comment there just makes me think you’re a Sony fanboy now.
        I don’t see the point in bashing consoles purely because you want to feel ‘loyal’ to one brand, surely it would be in everyone’s interest to own all consoles so they can enjoy everything.
        Obviously, money is an issue though. I’ve never had a 360 simply because I don’t have the money, but would buy one if I could.

      • That wasn’t french…

      • Really? Me a sony fanboy? I hate move as well. It’s a wii remote with a ping pong ball attached to it.

      • I’m really not making myself clear on this aren’t I? My problem with microsoft is that they talk the talk, but they sometimes don’t deliver on their promises. Kinect doesn’t really fit to a hardcore gamer and the 360, for me, had an awful failure rate when it was launched, which deter me from buying on in the first place. As for PS3, it’s too expensive, it consistently has a worse off look on games and having to fork out 160 quid when it bricked after warrenty really annoyed me. Overall, I want both, but I can’t afford the 360 right now.

      • Haha willy :D

      • What gazza said is right.
        You can call me a Sony fanboy too if you like, but the way Microsoft conduct themselves as a business is appalling. They bully their way into every market they get themselves into and have no respect for not only their competition by spouting this kind of shit but also their own customers by ripping them off time and time again.
        I couldn’t care less for motion sensors, but Sony seem to be doing something right by appeasing people like me who don’t just play games for a quick fix. Kinect looked crap at E3, if Sony/Microsoft roles were reversed I’d say the exact same thing about them.

      • Edit: NOT gazza, sorry.. I mean what BIGAL-1992 said is right. In my eyes atleast

      • @Crawfail I’m not bashing the 360 here, it’s microsoft that I’m fuming at.

      • Ah, ok, it seemed you were purely bashing on the 360. My bad.

      • Yeh, i messed the names up. sorry.

        I know. It’s MS im not happy with too.

      • Have to agree with BIGAL actually, this M$ exec must think we are all stupid. No core gamers will touch this until, 1) It actually works and 2) It has proper gamers games not some Poxy Wii shit ripoffs. 3) Go back to 1)

      • @retro_ Why do you have to call them “M$”? You don’t call Sony “$ony” or “Son¥”.
        Although I agree with the points that you made and think this also applies to Move.

  3. With that second statement, I’m convinced =O

  4. How many times a day do ‘we’ have to read about someone from MS talking up the product. Stop talking. Make some decent games, then I’ll come crawling back. Until then you are just annoying me.

    • That sound really rude. I apologise. Have had a very bad day at work :-(

      • Naah, not rude enough. They try to convince us that core gamers will want kinect without any evidence to the effect – its ridiculous…

  5. I Love how deluded Microsoft Employees are… it actually brightens my day. Speaking as a hardcore gamer, I can honestly say that we are gonna wanna buy something that; A) has proven to work with announced titles and not just a load of tech demos in which the device still proved to be as useful as big bag of crap. B) Is based on a formula we know works and 3) Doesn’t cost an arm and a leg.

    But where are we to find a this mystical product… oh yeah playstation move, silly me!

    • Speaking as a hardcore gamer, I can honestly say that i’ll be getting Natal, as well as Move…maybe he has a point…
      *bows head in shame*

  6. But what about Kinectamals? Every hardcore gamer will want that? Anyone?

  7. The problem here is that everyone that spends a lot of time online knows about both Move and Kinect and it’s about a 50/50 split over the two. In the outside world virtually nobody I know has a scooby doo about Move and they can’t stop ranting and raving about Kinect….

    • This is true, I was in a games shop and the manager was raving to a customer about Kinect – can’t remember the specifics, but I remember despairing about the fact that she was just spouting all the hype and that most of it wasn’t true. I wanted to go over and point out the flaws in her argument so badly…

      • Microsoft go around Game retailers like GAME, GameStation & various independents each store every month or so; put up merchandising, talk to as many staff as possible (or at least the managers) about everything thats new and coming up… they often leave stuff like T-Shirts, key-rings & other crap & other stuff for in-store incentives (like giving them to all staff who work the midnight launch, and they generally support the channel.

        Sony have nothing like that (or didn’t a year ago when I was in-the-know), Microsoft are there when it comes to providing tools to developers & they’re there when it comes sales advice at the point of sale – basically all the way through the process.

        TBH, that is how any company I’ve ever done business with does things – I don’t know why Sony are the odd ones out when it comes to supporting all their possible revenue opportunities.

      • Whilst I agree with you and have seen it in effect (in a different retail sector), this was a smaller store and as far as I’m aware much more in control of their advertising. I think that was what worried me about it, as I can understand employees in GAME etc pushing something they don’t necessarily like – whereas the manager of this shop just seemed misinformed to me.

      • Project84music – “I wanted to go over and point out the flaws in her arguement so badly…”

        You should have done mate, it would have been a good deed and I always get a kick out of smashing the lies of sales staff in front of customers. Goes the other way too though and if I hear truth from their mouths I’ll back that too.

      • Haha, my problem is I worry too much about offending people – I generally try to keep on everyone’s good side =P

        So pointing out good points would be much more my bag, if I didn’t then worry about offending them for eavesdropping. *Sigh* I despair about my overly analytical mind sometimes…

      • I seem to be the only one in my shop that is willing to push the Move over the new Xbox and Kinect. But saying that I have managed to convert the Assistant Manager to Move. The other problem is that I only work on Saturday and that’s the only time the Move pre-order equal or better the Xbox/Kinect ones.

      • Miscommunication is the primary cause of all the world’s problems.

        I back up the staff in front of customers when I overhear them saying something correct about a game of piece of hardware, and openly slam them when they’re not.

        When Army of Two 40th Day came out I bought it on release day and a guy behind me in the counter had the original in his hand, I asked him if he was gonna get the new one and he said he wanted to try the original first. The guy behind the counter was happy to sell a pre-owned game to the mug, so I said, “the first game is shit and you know it”.

      • I’ve done this too, as a floor manager in GAME was explaining to an older woman how the “HD-DVD market was outselling the Blu-Ray market and that it was all down to this beautiful machine”. I was trying to squeeze past them at the time and sort of squinted my face.
        FM: “Can I help ??”
        ME: “That’s not true”
        FM: “What’s not true?”
        ME: “You’re lying !”
        FM: “and you are…?”
        ME: “Russel Cook, pleased to meet you, you’re lying to this woman about the Xbox.” *turns to lady* “He is lying to you, the Xbox doesn’t even have a HD-DVD built into it !”
        OW: “We didnee* (*she was Dundonian) want ane o’ these, the laddie wants a new Playstation but this boy says this box thing’s better and we dinnee really hae that sort o’ money”
        ME: “Get him what he wants then, save a bit more if you have too”
        Then I ran off to trade a game in before my train came.
        *shakes head* I must’ve looked a right tool, preaching with Full Auto 2 in my hand ! HA HA :D

  8. I’m actually looking quite forward to Kinect. I’ve already got my pre-order in.

    • D’ya reckon there will be kinect porn eventually? That would definitely sell it to the hardcore

      • That’d be awesome. Maybe it’d get the 8 year olds the hell out of the MW2 and Halo 3 multiplayer matches finally.

      • You’ll have to do it standing up tho, none of this lying down porn :(

  9. I guess Dancing is the new hardcore..

  10. Does this guy know who the hardcore are or is it me who misinterprets hardcore

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